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Arranging DJ style Mix-Tapes in logic, is it possible?

Alex D

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Hi. I was wondering If it is possible to arrange audio tracks in logic in a mix-tape style. I want to arrange a dance music set at 130 bpm. does anyone have recommendations as to the most efficient way to achieve this.?


I'd suggest investing in Ableton Live if you can. It's perfect for you're needs, not dissing Logic because I use it myself, but not for this type of thing. In live you can save all your tracks to clips which you can drop into your arrangement and they will all be matched to the global tempo (handy or what!). From then it's just a case of laying them track for track and effects are there to be added and automated.

It's basically what the pros are using these days - people like Sasha, Digweed and Richie Hawtwin are championing the Live cause.

vistit www.ableton.com, to find out more.


D R Y F I S H.

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I think ableton Live sucks.


I would love to use Logic for assembeling DJ type sets. I can't figure it out yet though...


This is why I don't like Live:


1.) I have 7,000 it will take forever to warp marker them correctly

2.) Live creates more files, .asd files for every song you mark

3.) It is a pain in the ass to keep .mp3s and .asd files linked, their project manager is no good when you move your libraries around regularly.


Logic would be good for a DJ set.


1.) easy import from finder

2.) Powerful affects and easy automation

3.) BPM plug in to aid detection

4.) Apple Loops


If logic could tell me what key a song was in I could do harmonic mixes...


Reply if anyone is making "mixes" logic pro so I can hear them, and learn how your doing it... I haven't had a great success yet, but I'm working with it.

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I think Ableton Live rocks. Especially assembling dj type sets.


It's complitely possible to make dj mixes in Logic though it's not as easy as in Live. Import all the tracks in Logic, then one by one determine the bpm of the tracks (for eg. cut exactly one bar ie. four beats for eg. from the beginning of the first bassdrum to the beginning of the fifth bassdrum (or longer bit for greater accuracy), select the one bar bit and make a one bar cycle and use "adjust tempo using region length and locators" or get an estimate using BPM counter plugin). Then go to the time machine and stretch or pitch (stretching affects sound quality, try different algorithms) the track to 130bpm if it's not that originally. Then just arrange the tracks like you want them.


Live - (counters)

1) Logic doesn't "know" and auto-stretch the samples either so you need to do the above anyway for your 7000 files (if you really need to use them all at once)

2) If they really bother you, I think you can choose to hide them in Finder, or you can definitely change the viewing order sorted by file type so the .asds are not messing your Finder

3) I know this is probably not fair, but why do you keep moving the libraries? I understand if you have external hds but in other case I don't.


Logic + (counters)

1) Works with Live aswell

2) I personally like Logic's much more, too, but there are great fx and flexible automation in Live aswell

3) No need for BPM plug in Live because of lightning fast warping (which btw guesses the bpm pretty accurately anyway) and tap tempo feature

4) Auto loop feature of any cleanly cut AIFF and WAVE file + pitching and time stretching IMHO way more flexible than Apple Loops.


Logic would not be good for dj sets, it's not glitchless live, far from it. It can be tweaked and optimised but I'd say djing is one thing that I'd not wanna do live with Logic.


Use a keyboard to figure out the key of a song to do harmonic mixes, that's how people have done it for ages. I'm not an accomplished keyboard player but I key all the tracks I spin, all the time. You can also do it on the go with Logic (or Live), just play the track on an audio track (or iTunes) and put an audio instrument on one of Logic's instru tracks and play with the virtual keyboard to find the key. You can use a software like Mixed In Key, too, but I think it's way more beneficial to find the key yourself because a) you usually need to listen to the track before you play it so why not key it when you listen to it b) the key-detecting softwares are a great help but not 100% accurate and key-compatibility doesn't necessarily guarantee style-genre-sound-compatibility and nothing beats knowing the track yourself, not just trusting an algorithm (IMHO).


In the studio Logic is my sequencer of choice, I love it, I use it every day. Live is a completely another kinda of beast and is so damn great at what it was created for. These days it's also a full-blown DAW but I haven't really used it for full production but more as a sketch pad and live tool. I use it pretty much every day also. Beat-mangling, freaky try-outs, mash-ups, bpm-drifting and fluctuation fixing and pre-recorded radio shows are some of the stuff I do in live. And a lot of it side by side with Logic, they compliment each other.

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I think ableton Live sucks.


I would love to use Logic for assembeling DJ type sets. I can't figure it out yet though...


Sounds to me like you haven't fully explored live,it was created for the purpose of 'file' djing. My advice would be to delve into Live a bit more it does all things and more that you wish Logic could do. It's just a case of setting up a template for djing, as for beatmatching files - It couldn't be easier!!!



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Live is indeed to tool of choice here, Logic is not really suitable for doing dj mixes. I am not going repeat all the points that the other people already brought up but keep in mind that warping tracks is boring and takes a lot of time, after you are done with it you can reuse the pre-warped tracks over and over again. DJ-ing just takes a little bit more preparation but during your set you can focus more on the music, extra fx's then while doing a set with "Ye good ol' 1200's".


If you still don't like Live, you can also look into's NI's Traktor:


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Hi all, just caught up on your discussion and thought i should add something...


Having experimented with both over the last 2 years i have to say for ease of use at the moment Ableton does come out on top.. However when you Warp tracks, the audio quality IS compromised to some extent, and in different ways depending on your choice of warp setting. Therefore the only way round this is to ONLY warp the sections you wish to mix so you can time them up successfully. BPM changes aside, this is a fiddly method as lining up tracks that arent running at your current BPM is hard work. :(


Having tried out a mix in Logic a few weeks ago, I found by making elastic audio files out of the sections i wanted to mix together / change BPM , and running the rest straight gave me a better sonic result when playing out on a big system. I played an hour mixed on Logic and then an older Mix from Ableton to follow. The difference between the two was noticable.


As a Producer / DJ, I am always concerned that the sonic quality of what I play matches the other DJ's, so this is leading me to work in Logic for this purpose.


I would value feedback and especially info on other 'live' tests on big rigs. :D

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I'm trying to the same thing this poster was doing which is make a dj mix in Logic. It can be done but the problem i'm having is that I can change the bpm by doing it in small sections (i.e. 4 bars) but if I try to do the whole song having it fit within the locators doesn't work because I don't know how long it should be. Is their a way to change the bpm of the whole song at once? I think the answer to this question would also help the orignal poster.



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