presto music Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 hi there, i'm sure I read a thread a while ago about how to replace sounds- (Eg. locate transients on audio track, replace with midi event to trigger sample). I have searched hi ad low and can't seem to find info on this in the manual or on this forum.... I found some info re beat mapping, but can't see how to convert this to midi... any adice appreciated... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Not sure about the thread you're mentioning, but the function you're talking about is called Audio to Midi. Check out p. 514 in the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jope Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Did you try "Audio to Score" in the Sample Editor? See http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=17308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddTime Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... .................................. Fibonacci series with dots??!! (sorry for the OT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... .................................. Fibonacci series with dots??!! (sorry for the OT) Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Well spotted indeed! I still can't see it in Muses's post! Now a Fibonacci serieries based on prime numbers...that would be a spot!! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto music Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Not sure about the thread you're mentioning, but the function you're talking about is called Audio to Midi. Check out p. 514 in the manual. thanking you, again, kind sir peace presto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto music Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 ok so I tried the audio to midi as suggetsed, but i have to say that the results weren't that great, even after tweaking some of the parameters, several times. I'm just trying to map out the midi notes from a mono kick drum audio track. the resulting midi track using the preset 'slow drums' ended up giving notes over an almost 2 octave spread, which I think is crazy considering the kick drum track has no pitch variation... is there another way, or any tips? at the moment, I have to make a several further midi tranformations to get the result I'm after... i can't help but think that I'm doing something wrong. tnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muses Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I know it's not ideal, but you can then use the Transform window to make all the notes land on the same pitch. See my screenshot below. It should only require one transformation, assuming it's all to land on the same sound. I don't know why it chooses to put things on different pitches. I'm going to have to fool around with it some more to see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto music Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 hmm, yep I used the transform function, just a bit of a pain, that's all... I also noticed another irregularity- some of the midi notes that have been mapped by the 'audio to midi' function do not actually trigger the sampler on play back. it's maybe one out of every 6 that doesn't trigger... single click on the note in the editor also doesn't sound the sample. very strange! anyone else come across this? ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbrownsound Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Have a look at the velocities. Audio-to-score produces midi notes with a wide dynamic range, so maybe some are too low to trigger your samples. While you're on the transform page apply a bit of velocity limiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jope Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Have a look at the velocities.Audio-to-score produces midi notes with a wide dynamic range, so maybe some are too low to trigger your samples. While you're on the transform page apply a bit of velocity limiting. Agree. I had an EXS24 instrument (some grand piano, I think) with layered samples for different velocities, but the ranges didn't exactly meet, so there were certain velocity values that triggered neither one nor the other sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto music Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 cheers boys, sorry i should have mentioned... I already went and transformed the velocity to 'fix' with a value of 100 (at the same time that I transposed them to the same note) so all the notes should be the same velocity? they are the same colour and have the same length velocity bar inside the note... the sample isn't layered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbrownsound Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Well maybe you've got some double triggers going on. Incidently, I've always found Audio-to-Score a bit flakey for triggering. Sometimes it's OK, but usually it's not tight enough. I'd recommend Aptrigga, it's really good and dirt cheap, or Drumagog if you want to spend more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I'm just trying to map out the midi notes from a mono kick drum audio track. the resulting midi track using the preset 'slow drums' ended up giving notes over an almost 2 octave spread, which I think is crazy considering the kick drum track has no pitch variation... I don't do this alot, but there is one way I've found to be effective. Try taking just that kick track and beatmap it carefully, then record a MIDI track while you're playing along with the kick. Then quantize your MIDI to the grid you just made from beatmapping. I've had good success with this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto music Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 thanks again for the other tips... after checking it out further it seems that for some reason, Logic assigned some notes to output on channel 2, and these were not triggering, of course... I've found the timing to be quite good actually, just the pitch/velocity wierdness that hasn't been up to expectations.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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