globet Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Which sample rate is the optimal option? Noticed that 48kHz caused a slight misalignment compared to 44.10kHz. Edited April 17 by globet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscwilde Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 It's not a MIDI sample rate....so perhaps change the topic title. Logic's default audio sample rate is 48kHz. It's commonly used these days as CD - 44.1 kHz rate - is no longer the preferred/most likely destination format. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Midi does not have a sample rate. Maybe the instrument plugin audio only works at 44.1k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polanoid Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Also what do you mean by „misalignment“? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globet Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Thanks guys for the input. I think need to do more research and get back to this. The opening for this thread might be inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I've changed the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gilmartin Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 While we’re on this topic, if you have a project mix recorded in 44.1, would you still bounce for mastering at 48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Neil Gilmartin said: would you still bounce for mastering at 48? I would bounce at 44.1 kHz and give that to the mastering engineer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globet Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 First off, apologies for opening a thread without being more clear and providing screenshot or video regarding the issue. The interest happened when using a third party plugin called MIDI Freeze which lets you select those Sample Rate when recording. Here is a screenshot of the different Sample Rate outputs when used on the same 3 MIDI notes (Track Big Dipper) with an arpeggiator (simple 16th note pattern) loaded on to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Strange - does it even make sense there should be a sample rate selection, the program is working with MIDI & timing data, not audio... (!) Edit: Ok, it does say (can't copy/paste from AppStore, grr...) "Select Project Sample Rate to match the current project setting", for some reason. In any case, whatever the sample rate you are working at in your project, that's the option you should choose in that plugin, presumably for some timing reasons or something. If the timing is out at a particular sample rate, maybe contact the developer and give them a bug report... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscwilde Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Yep...weird as sample rate shouldn't have anything to do with it - but the dev leverages the project sample rate for something. Is there any advantage to this over the Record MIDI to Track Here function that's built-in to Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globet Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, oscwilde said: Is there any advantage to this over the Record MIDI to Track Here function that's built-in to Logic? Only advantage I can think of or what I use it for is you don’t have to play it in real time. 8 hours ago, des99 said: In any case, whatever the sample rate you are working at in your project, Any way to check the sample rate of the project? So in the dark not even knowing what sample rate I’m working at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscwilde Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 15 minutes ago, globet said: Any way to check the sample rate of the project? Look at the Transport bar. It should be visible there...but if not, customize it to always display Sample rate. You can also check this in the Project Settings. 16 minutes ago, globet said: you don’t have to play it in real time Fair enough...and pretty cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globet Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 Industry standard is 44.1 kHz and 24bit? Logic standard is 48 kHz, should be changed to 44.1 kHz? How will it affect the project and Why even have 96 176.4 192 kHz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, globet said: Industry standard is 44.1 kHz and 24bit? No, the industry standard is 48 kHz. A sampling frequency of 48 kHz is recommended for the origination, processing and interchange of audio programs employing pulse-code modulation (Source: https://www.aes.org/standards/comments/drafts/aes5-r-cfc-180904.pdf) 44.1 kHz was the old sampling rate used for Compact Discs. 9 minutes ago, globet said: Why even have 96 176.4 192 kHz? Many commercial studios record, process and edit at 48 kHz then mix in analog on large SSL consoles, recording the analog output of the SSL as a 96 kHz file delivered to the mastering engineer. A few rare producers choose to record, process and edit at 96 kHz. Anything above 96 kHz is offered only as a selling point for marketing purpose for the DAW manufacturers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globet Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, David Nahmani said: No, the industry standard is 48 kHz. A sampling frequency of 48 kHz is recommended for the origination, processing and interchange of audio programs employing pulse-code modulation (Source: https://www.aes.org/standards/comments/drafts/aes5-r-cfc-180904.pdf) 44.1 kHz was the old sampling rate used for Compact Discs. Many commercial studios record, process and edit at 48 kHz then mix in analog on large SSL consoles, recording the analog output of the SSL as a 96 kHz file delivered to the mastering engineer. A few rare producers choose to record, process and edit at 96 kHz. Anything above 96 kHz is offered only as a selling point for marketing purpose for the DAW manufacturers. my project is currently in 44.1 should I change the project to 48 and bounce in 48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 54 minutes ago, globet said: my project is currently in 44.1 should I change the project to 48 and bounce in 48? If you've already recorded audio files in your project then I would complete the project in 44.1 kHz and from now on start your new projects in 48 kHz. Note that the difference between the two is quite subtle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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