bobbybass Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 had some questions for anyone who might have a virus TI so just purchased the virus TI, was very excited to get it home and plug it in and check out the VirusControl software. Selecting the USB audio Outs from the VC software, there is too much latency to use it. To combat this access suggests toggiling btwn the analog (for no latency) and usb outputs (for sample accurate playback) which to me is quite a hassle to switch back and forth and only makes sense if you are plan on using the software in single mode and not in multi. another option i tried was to just use the VC interface and then try to bypass midi via the usb cable, by just pluggin into the midi in of the virus- plugging in usb cable somehow disables the midi i/o jacks of the virus. so my question is as follows: 1-anyone using the virus TI Virus control audio outs over the USB ports sucessfully with low latency? Any other workarounds you might have using the VC software in logic would be helpful. my specs- using macpro quad core xeon 2.66 w/4gb ram + 10.4.10, latest version of ti firmware and software and any possible other thing i could think of (not using usb on a hub etc) with a RME fireface 800. i dont ever intend to use the TI as my audio interface as access suggests because im sure the converters are inferior to the fireface 800, and u just bought it as well and love it as my audio interface. hope this isnt too confusing!, if need i will clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyan Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Hi, The answer is yes. I am using the virus TI Virus control audio outs over the USB ports sucessfully with low latency. You have two ways to make this possible. 1) Go to http://access-music.de/ and download the latest Virus TI OS. ( It is 2.5.1). After update process, open VC in L8. Then you' ll see the ''LIVE'' button at the left corner bottom in the VC interface. When you activate it, the sound goes to 'direct output'. You hear real time. 2) In the VC interface, your Virus channels have some routing selections for the output. First, connect your Virus TI' s Output to your sound card (1/4 TRS). Then in VC make the Output selection that you wish with right clicking the ''D'' button near the channel number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybass Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 yes this is what access suggests. i am using the latest firmware etc. while this seems to be a viable workaround for audio playback, i have noticed issues in the stablity of the midi timing, sometimes it is sample accurate, other times is randomly off until rebooting. this is without the usb on a hub and with all other concieavable precautions taken. to me this software-while a great concept, is not ready for prime time yet. its buggy and glitchy, ive opted to use it for sound library management until it is more stable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyronehowe Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 1) Go to http://access-music.de/ and download the latest Virus TI OS. ( It is 2.5.1). After update process, open VC in L8. Then you' ll see the ''LIVE'' button at the left corner bottom in the VC interface. When you activate it, the sound goes to 'direct output'. You hear real time. Hello Noyan Very useful info. Do you mind if I ask - are there any down sides to switching on the Live button? I mean is there any harm in justing leaving it on all the time? Plug-ins placed as inserts in the Virus TI track seem to work with the button down or up. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyan Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hello tyronehowe, I don't think so any harm in justing leaving the ''Live'' button on all the time. But you must keep the analog outs connected all the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyronehowe Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hello Noyan Thanks for your quick reply. I don't have any connections to my TI other than the USB cable. Playing back other instruments using the TI keyboard is fine; it's just playing back the TI itself is painful UNLESS I click the Live button. I just wondered what it actually did that would be worth turning it off; if you see what I mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyan Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Oh, I see it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyronehowe Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Well this is bugging me now! I have contacted Access support for an answer. As soon as I have one, I'll post it here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyronehowe Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Ok – for those interested - I have the final word from the very useful Access Music Support team. Yesterday I emailed Access with this problem, not expecting to get a reply until at least late on Monday. I asked: I am using the Virus control in Logic and the latency when playing the keyboard is quite bad; so I have click the "LIVE" button to get rid of latency.No problems, it works well. My question: Is there a down side to leaving "Live" mode enabled all the time? Does it use more of the Virus CPU? Or more of my Mac's CPU? Is there anything that I CAN'T do or WON'T work with Live mode enabled? Thank you in advance for your help A very helpful Joerg Huettner replied last night (fantastic – support on a Saturday evening!): Dear Tyrone, No, there's no downside of this at all. With best regards, This was good news, but I really just wanted to check why the Live button was there. So I replied: Dear Joerg Thank you very much for your very fast reply (on a Saturday!) But just one more question please: if there is no down side to having live mode on, then why is there a button at all? Why did the Virus control programmers give us the button to be able to turn on and off? Sorry about this - you can see that this subject is bugging me! Regards And his final reply - at 1am this Sunday morning! – was: Dear Tyrone, This button is only needed on certain sequencer setups, so this button for instance is of no use for e.g. Cubase users since they won't run into this problem. Every sequencer engine is set up differently, which makes a different approach necessary, so e.g. in Ableton Live you're not really able to play the TI live without having this button activated. So there we have because some sequencers need it and others don’t. This kind of customer support is exactly why (to me) Access will continue to get my custom. Anyway, just thought I’d share this in case anyone else was interested Regards PS I did email back a final thank you to Joerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS. Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 http://virusti.com/forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybass Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 i still am seeing 30-60ms of latency when using direct (ie live button) analog audio outputs and the virus control software even with the latest firmware (2.7) midi doesnt line up on playback properly either, has to be switched back to usb for it to play in intended spot it was recorded in i am just using analog midi i/o right now, was pretty disappointed with the VC software, great concept but still not ready for prime time IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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