ski Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Some appleloops (in particular, some but not all of the FX), when dragged into the arrange window, display a waveform overview. Some don't. Is this normal? Case in point: when dragged into the arrange window, "Aaronhelm Scream" will display a waveform overview but "Cereal Pour" will not. FWIW, I'm new to appleloops, so maybe this is all appleloopnoob stuff but... as soon as I started working with appleloops I ran into a problem... when I dragging FX into the arrange, some of them would return an error message saying something about "overview can't be drawn" because of some stupid permissions thing. To remedy this I found the folder that contained all of the appleloops and changed the owner and permissions. That solved this problem. (Why they're "protected" is beyond me --- I paid for these things, yes? But I digress). So now I don't get the error message, but still the waveform overviews of various sounds don't appear in the arrange window even though a progress bar flashes on the screen which I think is indicating that a waveform overview is being calculated. But... (there's always a "but") opening the sample editor will indeed show the waveform of any appleloop dragged into the arrange. Thoughts/advice/help/workarounds/understandings? 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I always first save my project and make sure any apple loop / audio files are automatically copied to the project folder. That always takes care of the waveform overview alert. Never had a loop not show me its waveform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thanks for the reply, David. Thing is... that when I add a loop (or FX) I wouldn't normally expect to have to save a project in order for the waveform to display. Would you agree? Could you please try adding those example loops to a project and tell me if you see the same behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I can't find those specific loops, but yes I don't have any overview problems even if I don't save the project. Are you an admin on that machine? If you're not save as project takes care of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) i can confirm that 'Cereal Pour' waveform did NOT draw, but the scream one did. Didn't get any error messages tho..and the files both play...and the 'refresh overview' in the Sample Editor window didn't do anything to the arrange window. Edited December 10, 2007 by dkgross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Thanks again David. Yes, I'm the admin, the sole user. But I am running L8 on a separate partition, though that shouldn't make a difference as I boot off that partition. Or at least that's the way I understand it. I noticed that my Apple Loops folder (and all enclosing folders) were assigned to "system" as the owner. I changed it to the name of my home folder (and applied to all enclosing folders) and voila, no more error messages. But, the screenshot that DK posted? That's exactly what I'm seeing (thanks DK). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I even tried saving a copy as a new file, and THAT didn't draw the waveform either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Mayfield Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Maybe the .caf Apple Loops have waveform overviews embedded as metadata, and that one's waveform data is corrupted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What if you open the Apple Loop in the sample editor and choose Audio File > Refresh Overview(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkgross Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 tried that, David. Didn't make a difference. as a side note..I'm have ALL KINDS of issues with fades/clicks/pops on apple loops/audio files. I've got a :60 trailer to do, and I thought I'd take a shot at doing the entire post in Logic, including music. Toss PTools aside for a change I used a LOT of SFX that I found using the loop browser (yes..I have it set to make a copy to my Project Folder). However..I simply can NOT get it to play back properly, without pops/clicks/and distortions. I've trashed the prefs, trashed the fade files, checked to make sure my word clock/sample rate is set right, etc. I've done a lot of soloing of tracks to make sure it isn't RMX causing it, or Guitar Rig 3 that I have on one Kontakt GTR patch...All those tracks, when solo'd, seem to play just fine. If I solo all the audio tracks, however..its just random mess. A few things I haven't tried is deleting all fades and automation completely...I got too frustrated tonight to try it, but I'll give it another shot tomorrow, and post an MP3 for ya'll to hear. and now..I nap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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