dyabelle Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hi you crazy Logic people Me and my band started to record our first song. It's only me who has been working with logic since about 2 or 3 years, but I've never recorded live drums. Last Sunday we recorded the drums (1 bass drum, 1 snare, 1 hi-hat, 3 toms, 2 overheads) and we got tracks that are very well separated, so I'm glad we did some great positioning of the microphones. Too, we have a very good and precise drummer. Yet there are still some tempo fluctuations (less than 1/16). But they're unnoticable when listening to the track without the click. Now I'm a little bitte confused because I don't know if we should go for a better take or if we should work (quantize, mix, whatever ) with the 3 takes we already have. I mean, everything sounds great, there are only these fluctuations. So I'm curious what your criteria are for stopping recording and starting working with the takes that have been made. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoSatis Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hi and welcome Just remember: If it sounds good it's good. If it's unnoticable and sounds fine than don't fix it. All drummers sway a bit from the click track so that's normal. Consider yourself lucky you are working with a drummer with such good timing. Only fix things that need fixing. Sometimes people feel they should edit just for the sake of editing or mix just for the sake of mixing. Believe me I have been there. But in the end all that counts is how it SOUNDS. If you have to edit to get it to sound good than edit it. If it already sounds good than leave it be. Unless of course you are convinced you can make it better... but that is really up to you. Hope this helps Have a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyabelle Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Thanks a lot for your answer! What we already thought about is comping several takes, putting only the best parts together. Also, we thought about moving some kicks. But why are there so many threads or posts about quantizing the whole drum thing? Only because they all have bad drummers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpye Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 But why are there so many threads or posts about quantizing the whole drum thing? Only because they all have bad drummers? Not necessarily, just unfortunately a lot of people expect things to be machine tight. It's rarely the best thing for the music really. Some people just feel happier when things are like that. I think it sound awful in 99% of cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consagrado Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 personally the high hat...sounds too much like a bell...maybe its ur kit...i dont know.. try to reduce the mids.... other than drums...the vocals are a bit too dry...they sound bland...just a little tweak..its kool other then that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyabelle Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Thanks davidpye. It's also my opinion that real music should sound real, otherwise we all could just stick to drum computers. But if you listen to almost every song that reaches the charts everything seems like quantized to the max. I think it's possible that these little fluctuations might "vanish" totally (at least for the listener) when all the other instruments come in. Maybe I need to record a few songs until I know how precise it has to be. To get a feeling for it... Maybe I think too much By the way: this seems to be a really great forum! Very helpful, friendly and professional! @consagrado: are you sure this reply should land in my thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpye Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Why don't you try this workflow I came up with, it'll act like Beat Detective in Protools does, and then decide if you like the results. Personally it seems a bit unnecessary, if you're happy with it, and you think that it represents the sound of your band, then it's right by you. This sort of thing is what separates producers, you know, what one is happy with is not the same as another, and they get different results and levels of success depending on that. This is the time you decide on what is right for this project. http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=19457 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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