Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm using 2 interfaces, Mackie Onyx 1620 and Focusrite Saffire LE. Both hooked up to the Apple Aggregate Device. Monitor outputs are 1&2 in Logic (Mackie Onyx Control Room L&R), this works fine. Therefore... outputs 3&4 in Logic should be the Saffire's 1&2 outputs. (Logic 5&6 = Saffire 3&4 and so on...) I need to route a mono signal from logic into an external delay pedal, and back in again. But..... when I assign the signal to go out of logic's 3&4, there's nothing coming out of the Saffire LE! The saffire has 8 outs, I've tried them all.. nothing comes out of any of them! + theres no mono output option, they look like stereo only. Is it possible to route a mono signal externaly?? Straight, Bus or Aux. Do I have to disable the surround option or something? also... In Logic Platinum 5 (PC), there's a Master out for 3&4, is this option available in Logic 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 There is an insert know as 'I/O' in the helper section. Read up on it and see if that will work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny333 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 as far as i know logic wont show outputs you dont have.... so the fact you can see 3 4 means they are hooked up....can you see 3 4 master out? is it up? what outputs can you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 Thanks 4 replies. Shivermetimbers (Waits fan?), will do that (not in the studio at the moment) Tiny333, On the outputs option for each channel strip, logic recognises the Onyx & Saffire outputs, from 1 to 10, (2 Onyx and 8 Saffire). All strips are assigned to output 1-2 (Onyx / Main Monitor). But when I assign them to 3-4, there's nothing coming out of nowhere! + there's no logic master for 3-4. But.... Output 5-6 goes direct to the Saffire's Headphone control (works well). This confuses the issue even more because the the Saffire has jack outputs 5-6 in the back too! I have contacted Focusrite about this too. I've tried messing around with the Saffires software control pad, it's a bit confusing! All I need to do is use my shitty delay pedal for an unique effect in one part of a song! Appreciate any feedback. "What's he building in there?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny333 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 i dont have experience with your particular setup....but can see 34 as an option but no output fader? it must be there turned down somplace maybe you cant see it as you dont have anything set to it? if u have out 34 as an option the fader must be there someplace.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 if u have out 34 as an option the fader must be there someplace.....? Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 2, 2008 Author Share Posted March 2, 2008 Nope .... nothing... siltch! Whatever I assign to go out of 3-4, nothing physically (aurally!) comes out of the Saffire! I've tried the I/O in Helper, it recognises all the Saffires outputs, but when a signal is assigned, nothing comes out of the box! In the Saffire control pad, the signal shows up clearly, but no sound coming from the box!! mmmmm...... It's very simple... I know it! How do you assign an extra master output? I think it's because there's no master for 3-4....or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny333 Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 its there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted March 2, 2008 Share Posted March 2, 2008 Couple of thoughts come to mind... Have you selected your aggregate device in the audio prefs? You said there's no "master out for 3/4". Do you mean there's no output object for it? Check your environment's audio layer and if you don't see one, make one. Assign it to Output 3/4. Now, whether you have an out 3/4 object or you just made one, take any audio track (or VI) and route it to 3/4. Do you hear audio? If not, do you at least see movement on the meters on the output 3/4 object? Post back with your results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 Check your environment's audio layer and if you don't see one, make one. Assign it to Output 3/4. Sorry for my lack of Logic understanding but...how do you do this? I've gone so far as Windows / Enviroment ..... thats it.. what next with regards to your suggestions Ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 Check your environment's audio layer and if you don't see one, make one. Assign it to Output 3/4. Anyone know how to do this simple function? I've read the manual, no sense. The manual speaks to me as if I'm a cyberbot or something. Any humans out there who understand this s#!+? I'm just a poor songwriter converting from an old 1/4" tape! This big new digital world is so overwhelming for a poor analogue soul like me. Booo hooo booo hooo ........ ooops..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Go into the environment, audio layer. If you don't see an "Output 3/4" object, go to New > Channel Strip. Once the new object shows up, change it's "Cha" to Output 3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 It's a long shot, but: Q: How do you select what audio returns to each Saffire LE bus (meaning the S/W tracks within SaffireControl, e.g. the audio that becomes the PLAYBACK MIX) from your software (e.g. Ableton, Logic, Cubase etc.)? A: When you have chosen the Saffire LE as the audio interface within the audio recording platform (Ableton/Logic/Cubase etc.), the output audio options on the Mixer for each track will relate to the Playback Mix faders within SaffireControl LE. In other words, the audio routes through SaffireControl LE before going to the Saffire LE outputs. This way, you can create latency-free mixes for monitoring. So, if you set one stereo track on the mixer to route to Saffire LE Outputs 3/4, then the signal won't go straight to the Headphones (Outputs 3/4) unless the S/CARD switch is active within SaffireControl LE. Instead, the audio will route to the two corresponding S/W 3/4 Playback Mix faders in SaffireControl LE, where exact levels of that audio can be set on Outputs 1/2 and 3/4. Q: So I can only send eight tracks from my sequencer to SaffireControl LE to become the Playback Mix for the artist I'm recording? What if my song has 20 tracks? A: You can assign as many audio tracks to be sent to SaffireControl LE as you like. That way, if tracks 1-8 in your sequencer are all drums, you can group them together by assigning all those tracks to Saffire LE Outputs 1/2, which will become S/W 1/2 within SaffireControl LE, e.g. the level of all the drums in the PLAYBACK MIX in SaffireControl LE will be controlled by the first fader in each of the PLAYBACK MIX sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull Hair Out Studio Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 In other words, the audio routes through SaffireControl LE before going to the Saffire LE outputs. This way, you can create latency-free mixes for monitoring. So, if you set one stereo track on the mixer to route to Saffire LE Outputs 3/4, then the signal won't go straight to the Headphones (Outputs 3/4) unless the S/CARD switch is active within SaffireControl LE. Instead, the audio will route to the two corresponding S/W 3/4 Playback Mix faders in SaffireControl LE, where exact levels of that audio can be set on Outputs 1/2 and 3/4. Aha! Got it! Now.. I have signals coming out of SaffireLE Out 1-2 and 3-4. But nothing out of 5-6! (7-8 is SPDIF) mmmm Go into the environment, audio layer. If you don't see an "Output 3/4" object, go to New > Channel Strip. Once the new object shows up, change it's "Cha" to Output 3/4 Thanks Ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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