Routing for Send/Return Effect?

[CShorte]

I have a Distortion effect on Bus 1. I route my guitar via a send effect to Bus 1 at unity gain. The guitar is not routed to an output. Bus 1 is not assigned to an output but is assigned as input to an audio track; the audio track at unity gain is assigned to an output.

 

When I listen, to the audio track, I only hear the guitar without the Distortion effect. If I route Aux 1 with input from Bus 1 to an output, I hear the effect. But the audio track that Bus 1 is routed to is clean or without the effect and therefore, I am not able to record the guitar effected by the Distortion.

 

A more simplified way of saying this is:

 

Guitar to effect on Bus 1, assigned to Aux 1, Bus 1 to Audio Track, Audio Track to Output = Clean

 

Guitar to effect on Bus1, assigned to Aux 1, Aux 1 to Output = Distortion Effect

 

I could do an insert of the Distortion effect directly on the Audio Track but I would like to use the effect for several different inputs at various times. Like, saving resources.

 

How do I record the Distortion Effect?

 

Thanks in advance for your help, CS.

[David Nahmani]

Why not insert the Distortion on the Guitar CS and route the output (not a send) of that track to bus 1, then record bus 1.

 

Or route the output of the clean guitar to bus 1, put the disto on Aux 1, set Aux 1's output to bus 2 and record bus 2.

[pantomimeHorse]

...... or:

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Create an Input object in the Environment. Stick the disto effect in it

as an insert, and record your audio file from that ?

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C

[Eric Cardenas]

...... or:

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Create an Input object in the Environment. Stick the disto effect in it

as an insert, and record your audio file from that ?

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C

 

Deja vu...

 

http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=22155&highlight=

[CShorte]

Eric, David and C, thank you for your replies.

 

The idea of using an Input object in the Environment would always have the effect present and the effect would have to be placed on multiple inputs to be used by any other instrument. Having knowledge of the input object will be very helpful. For what I am trying to do today, the Bus to Aux, Aux to Bus solution looks more like what I am looking for as it will allow me to create stems with effects for multiple instruments.

 

Is this the way that stems would be created in Logic or should I consider some additional approaches? Again, thank you, CS.

[David Nahmani]

That's one way to create stems. Another is to solo a stem bus and bounce.

[CShorte]

David,

Thank you. If I solo a bus, for example a Reverb, how much of the original input to the Reverb will I get? Or do I need to solo the associated Instrument track to have a mixed signal as would be heard at the output? CS.

[David Nahmani]

If you solo a reverb bus you only get what's been processed by that reverb.

 

A stem bus is a submix, so when you solo it you hear everything you want to mix down as a stem.

[pantomimeHorse]

Deja vu...

 

 

What ? Again ?

 

 

 

 

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C

[CShorte]

I have done a search and found comments by several people, David included, on the subject of buses, aux's and sub-mixing. I would like to share the compiled document of the information from many kind people on this site but I did not take the name's of the various contributors and I would not want to appear to be taking credit for the information.

 

If it is considered OK to post, I will in a future reply. In the interim, thank you all very much for helping me to understand this subject. As I am new from Cubase, Logic is a bit of a learning experience at this time. Again, thanks, CS.