Cool piece about loops and copyright.

[m-m-m]

 

It's a bit long, and the delivery is kind of bland, but it makes a lot of good points about copyright and gives a specific time line for a very popular (some would say overused) 6 second break beat. It's interesting from a historical standpoint, to say the least.

 

It appears that I'm in the minority here when it comes to my stance on the state of current copyright law, but whoever made this video makes a good case for my position.

[ski]

Thanks for posting that link. Very insightful and thought provoking, to say the least.

 

BTW, what is your stance on the state of current copyright law?

[m-m-m]

it needs reform, it's too restrictive, that it primarily serves the labels interests while hurting the artists ... lemme find a link for ya ...

[m-m-m]

here it is

 

.... http://questioncopyright.org/bob_ostertag_speaks ...

 

the site has a lot of good info on it ... when I found the video, it wasn't my intention to get on a soapbox, I just wanted to share ...

[ski]

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out. Wasn't meaning to draw you into a debate or anything. You mentioned something about your stance and I didn't know what it was (these things can cut both ways).

 

Thanks.

[pantomimeHorse]

You might also like to look at:

 

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Oct02/articles/soundingoff1002.asp?print=yes

 

 

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C

[m-m-m]

and thanx for that link ....

 

 

.... that guy looks familiar!

[pantomimeHorse]

and thanx for that link ....

 

 

.... that guy looks familiar!

 

Hah, thank you ! (As the late Tommy Trinder would have put it ....)

 

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C

[m-m-m]

that was a really good read ... I initially opened it up and just left the window on my desktop. Really impressive piece.

[simonphoenix]

My approach is generally to either use loops as a source for inspiration, and create something similar, albeit in my own key, scale & tempo.... the main essence is to catch the fundamental rhythm and the overall vibe.

 

Or I would totally butcher and rearrange it, process it, layer it with other loops and sounds, so that it becomes indistinguishable.

 

Of course I tend to generate alot of my own original loops in the creation process as well

 

I'm not very keen on the drag & drop approach to composition myself. To easy, not much of a challenge. But that's not to say I would try to sensor anybody who does. If that's their preferred choice of paint, then that's OK.

 

But I must add that there seems to be an over-saturation of hip-hop/rap songs that sample their chorus from a well known song. It's excessive to the point that you get the strong impression that originality is dead.

[m-m-m]

But I must add that there seems to be an over-saturation of hip-hop/rap songs that sample their chorus from a well known song. It's excessive to the point that you get the strong impression that originality is dead.

I would agree with that ... but it seems that most of that stuff is what I would call "hip hop for the masses". The air waves seem to be flooded with that kind of thing because clearwater decides that it will be easier to sell.

[m-m-m]

I guess I should clarify ... I dunno if you guys and gals abroad have clearwater, but it's essentially the near-monopoly that controls the US airwaves.

[toysun]

Google it - prepare to be scared, very scared.

 

J

[simonphoenix]

Even our Radio Stations are becoming syndicated, and if it wasn't for some relatively new cross-media laws introduced in the 90s into Australia, Murdoch & Packer would have their hands on every media industry.

 

Problem is it becomes a dangerous place to be, because then we have on or two parties DICTATING what we do or don't see. This opens itself right up to controlling the world through information by ways of suppressing everything. Give us this sugar coated truth that everything is alright.

 

Sure we still learn of murders and extortions, but that's the news they WANT us to know. After all we're not living in paradise, so they need to throw us a bone.

 

Hell -people around here still have the belief that Australia is in drought, because that's what they want to believe. As soon as the public find out that the changes are more or less permanent due to global warming, then all the farmers would be selling up which would have massive implications to the rest of out economy. Massive iceburgs were spoted last year drifting from Antarctica.... that's has to be a bad sign, it's never happened before.

 

But they go on to continuously call it a drought and pretend that everything is still OK.

 

Our Ex-Prime Minister John Howard, didn't want to ratify the Kyoto Agreement because he felt it would disadvantage Australia... It's obvious that he didn't have enough foresight to tell that the lack of rain due to failure to reduce emissions would impact our country too.

 

I won't go on.... It would be a pointless exercise anyway, and a waste of all our times.

 

But the media is in a very powerful position, we must at all costs do our best to stop it from becoming a monopoly.

 

And as much as musicians are in a very powerful place to be able to put out just about any message they want and influence people. If the government doesn't like it, it'll only end up being banned. So much for freedom of speech.

 

FREEDOM!!!!....LMAO