how do you resize a region-bigger

[1pauper1]

i have a region

my region is too small for easy editing

want to make it even bars. let's say from 3 and a half bars to 4 bars.

 

i don't want to alter the audio (time stretching) i just want to

change the over-all length.

i've even tried creating an adjacent empty region and merging

or glueing or tie-ing the regions does not work

 

dragging doesn't work, this seems a basic simple task why

doesn't logic do this with audio regions. its like you can't do any

kind of structural audio editing..... is this program for phony midi

and sample music only with no regard to real audio ?

 

sorry didn't mean to rant, but this is really aggravating.

two hours and can't figure out how to increase the size

of an audio region WITHOUT time stretching/altering the audio.

[stevecowley]

You may think this seems like a simple or basic task, but personally it's never occurred to me that there should be a way of making a region bigger. May I ask why you want to do it? Is it so you can select or edit it without zooming in?

 

If I understand you correctly, you want to leave the current audio intact, but add silence to the beginning or end to create a longer region?

 

If that IS what you mean, then I would suggest placing an audio region next to the region you want to elongate - glue them together, and then 'silence' the unwanted bit of audio in the sample edit window. Or have I completely got the wrong end of the stick?

[litesnsirens]

Yes it would seem that is what he wants to do ... for some reason you can't even draw a silent audio region that you can glue into existing audio... In cubase you could draw an empty audio region ... and you could glue it to existing audio regions.. this would be useful in Logic as well... ie; you use strip silence to get rid of room noise between actual audio... if you glue the resulting regions back together you end up with the original file... draw in an empty region then do your merge and you will have a single audio region without the original noise between the actual audio...of course there are workarounds in logic as Steve points out ... but it would be simple and easy to be able to just draw in or stretch a region...I already figured out and implemented these work arounds... just thinking workflow ...we all have different preferences for organizing and working in our projects ... so different things are important to different people...

[marcel72]

i have a region

my region is too small for easy editing

want to make it even bars

 

I think it would be worth doing a little more research into editing techniques. DAWs allow you to edit down to the sample, and a couple bars is easy editing even with tape...

 

How to do what you want to do: Create a cycle the length of the region you want to end up with, with the smaller region contained within it where you want it to end up. Solo the track that the region is on, and do an offline bounce from the output object that corresponds to this track.

 

Import the resulting file where you want, and edit the silence to your heart's content.

[fader8]

... In cubase you could draw an empty audio region ... and you could glue it to existing audio regions.. this would be useful in Logic as well...

 

Not quite following you guys on this. I do this all the time. Pencil in a region between regions, glue tool, get the message: Non-contiguous regions . . new audio file, . . blah, blah . . Works here.

 

But to the OP, please be a bit more specific about what you're trying to achieve. Is the region not matching tempo? Is tempo relevant?

[marcel72]

... In cubase you could draw an empty audio region ... and you could glue it to existing audio regions.. this would be useful in Logic as well...

 

Not quite following you guys on this. I do this all the time. Pencil in a region between regions, glue tool, get the message: Non-contiguous regions . . new audio file, . . blah, blah . . Works here.

 

But to the OP, please be a bit more specific about what you're trying to achieve. Is the region not matching tempo? Is tempo relevant?

 

Hmmm, I assumed that didn't work any more in L8 or something...

 

I've done it before in 7, but I wouldn't say I do it all the time.

 

I usually bounce to consolidate edits, as described.

 

YMMV

[fader8]

Wait a minute, OK, if you're just connecting a region that represents an actual audio file, with one that doesn't, then it doesn't work. I was thinking of having the alias/dummy region in between two actual regions. Sorry, I was a little braindead there.

 

The solution, as with any other non-linear digital media editor, is to create what's known in the video world as a "slug". Just create a few "digital black" audio files for different sample rates and keep the pertinent ones handy in your bin.

 

While it would be nice to have an "insert slug" command similar to Final Cut Pro where it just generates the slug on the fly, it's not that big an inconvenience.

[1pauper1]

ok everyone, thanx for the suggestions

[Ploki]

why would you need that anyway? i dont get it quite.

[1pauper1]

for cpying, pasting,ghosting,cloning,repeating ....etc

 

its much easier to move things around and line things up in logic when they are even lengths.

 

ie; would you rather use a loop or audio region

with a length of 1 3 3 42

 

or a length of 2 0 0 0. its just easier to work with.