Solo,... why does it have to be so complicated?

[PMcC]

In the mixer,.

 

Highlight a channel strip,. press "S" on the Mac Keyboard,..

This solos the Channel strip and the track,.. great!

 

Highlight more than one,... say swipe across 5 channelstrips...

 

press "S" on Mac Keyboard,. only the first strip is soloed,.. WTF ?!

 

I know I can press the Solo buttons of one strip and they will all solo, but I'm trying to use the mouse less.

 

why does this feature just not make sense to me,. does it need to be so complicated?

 

PMcC

[David Nahmani]

Highlight a channel strip,. press "S" on the Mac Keyboard,..

This solos the Channel strip and the track,.. great!

 

Wrong: this turns on Solo mode, which solos the selected regions. Since you selected a channel strip, it selected that track, and all the regions on that track, so all those regions are temporarily soloed (as long as they are selected). The channel strip is not soloed.

 

Highlight more than one,... say swipe across 5 channelstrips...

 

press "S" on Mac Keyboard,. only the first strip is soloed,.. WTF ?!

Look at your Arrange area to see the region selection, that's what the solo mode looks at.

 

I know I can press the Solo buttons of one strip and they will all solo, but I'm trying to use the mouse less.

Like you just realized "S" is not a shortcut for the Channel Strip solo button, it's a shortcut for the Solo Mode. Control-S is the shortcut for the solo button, but it only works on one button at a time.

 

why does this feature just not make sense to me,. does it need to be so complicated?

There are several ways of soloing depending on the type of work you're trying to do. Track solo buttons, Channel Strip solo buttons, Solo Mode, Solo Lock Mode... etc. The more features a software has, the more complex it gets to understand. Logic has a lot of features.

[pantomimeHorse]

The Solo mode toggle has always been iffy, even in LogicPro 7.

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Unusable.

 

 

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[David Nahmani]

The Solo mode toggle has always been iffy, even in LogicPro 7.

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Unusable.

 

Whhhhh...at? I use it every day, it's great. I wrote a lesson about it in my book, and future apple certified trainers are taught how to use it without a problem all over the world. Not sure what you found to be iffy or unusable about it, it's flawless here.

[PMcC]

Thanks for the replies,

 

David,. I changed the KC,. so, for me "S" on Mac KB solos a highlighted strip, and it's corresponding region,

I work mostly with arrange and "X" view,.. (small mixer)

 

My KC "S" that works with one strip,....

should work if I had 5 strips highlighted,... thats what Logic tells me,...

no pun intended.

 

But your saying it's non-sensible to expect it to work this way,.?

OK,

 

this is what I mean,... it's NOT logical, it's overly complicated.

 

PMcC

[David Nahmani]

Oh ok, I see what you mean. I thought this was a case of you using the Solo mode and wondering why it didn't behave the same way as clicking the Solo button!

 

Then yes you're right, you can't solo several channel strips at the same time. And you would expect it to work on several selected CS at once, but it doesn't. I usually just drag over the solo buttons in the Arrange area instead.

[bmdaugherty]

In the mixer, swipe across or otherwise select the channel strips you want, hold command and click solo...

[David Nahmani]

In the mixer, swipe across or otherwise select the channel strips you want, hold command and click solo...

 

Wow, cool, I did not know that!

[PMcC]

This is also true with holding shift,..

 

too bad not with KC's.

 

PMcC

[David Nahmani]

In the mixer, swipe across or otherwise select the channel strips you want, hold command and click solo...

 

Wait... I just did that once, and now I don't have to hold down any modifier key or anything. Just drag across several channel strips, click one solo button, all the selected channel strips are soloed.

[PMcC]

In the mixer, swipe across or otherwise select the channel strips you want, hold command and click solo...

 

Wait... I just did that once, and now I don't have to hold down any modifier key or anything. Just drag across several channel strips, click one solo button, all the selected channel strips are soloed.

 

You're kidding right?!

 

a power user author,.. !!! David,.. shame, shame, shame,.....

Logic is happening man,.

swipe,. "M" mutes all, swipe change all pans, volumes,. record arm,..

no modifier keys needed.

 

RTFM,.. ! LOL,...)))))

 

kidding

[pantomimeHorse]

The Solo mode toggle has always been iffy, even in LogicPro 7.

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Unusable.

 

Whhhhh...at? I use it every day, it's great. I wrote a lesson about it in my book, and future apple certified trainers are taught how to use it without a problem all over the world. Not sure what you found to be iffy or unusable about it, it's flawless here.

 

Not so on my rig, David.

I have always found this to be an issue, right from 7.1.

Maybe its peculiar to the build I have ?

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If I select regions by marquee in the Arrange, it works OK.

If I select them by Shift-click on tracks, it doesn't solo anything

except the first track I selected.

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Weird.

 

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[bigramp]

quick question about solo :

 

one track in my session template has the red "forbidden" line on its solo button. but i don't want that. so it CTRL click on it and the red line disappear.

 

then i save my session template, again.

 

then i create a new session from this template.

 

and the solo on that particular track is still "forbidden" with the red line. it can't be saved, for some reason.

 

driving me mad !!

 

any clue ?

[bmdaugherty]

use the MIXER window. I guess your right, you don't need command...

[taxiway01]

The red slash across solo buttons keeps peeping randomly in my projects everytime it feels like and then the next too... I really loved the way you could solo region, tracks or channels in L7, and I'm not sure anymore about HOW exactly it's been "simplified" in L8. I thought I had it, but it recently started to behave bizarrely on my rig, particularly on big project including several folder tracks.

 

I know, Iknow... RTFM. But still, I'd love if somebody could just summarize the complete solo procedure(s) once and for all in this thread, so we could know if whatever strange behavior occurs is supposed to happen that way or not. I'm thinking of the infamous random red slash, but also to the fact that ALL channels I swipe do not always respond, or to the fact that auxes and busses do not always respond the same way.

 

The more features a software has, the more complex it gets to understand. Logic has a lot of features.

 

David, to be able to put things THIS way, you would achieve miracles in politics.

 

Cheers,

[fader8]

The red slash across solo buttons keeps peeping randomly in my projects everytime it feels like and then the next too...

 

I'm growing increasingly convinced that this is a bug. While Logic 8's solo-safe system is innovative in keeping paths open that you want to hear, sends to busses and aux's, etc., I think there's a glitch that under certain circumstances can get it confused and make a mistake, causing that channel to revert to solo-safe.

 

However, this is another one of those things that seems to happen more, if not exclusively, if the file or template was originally created in Logic 7. Not a showstopper though, just a pain.

[shilshoolon1]

Sorry to hijack the thread. Is there a solo latch option in Logic (pressing one solo track will cancel the other solo then pressing shift on the solo track will add the track without unsoloing the previous track like in PT.

 

Thanks,

 

Shil

[taxiway01]

See? We need a summary.

[shivermetimbers]

LOL @ a summary... What do you think the Manual is for??? Logic works the way Logic works and PT works the way PT works.

 

Unfortunately with most manuals, finding what you are looking for can be difficult. Posting answers in this thread today is fine, but tomorrow, someone else will ask the same question (most likely without searching or RTFM).

 

The more you use Logic and the more you reference the manual(s), the more everything will start to fit into your style.

 

I am going to start using RTM (Reference The Manual) instead of Read The Fuckin Manual.

[taxiway01]

Yes indeed, RTFM. I knew it was coming, apologies for a dispensable post.

 

I'm sure that none of the 1240 posts you have at the time of this kind intervention could've received RTFM as an answer. Peace.

[pantomimeHorse]

The great advantage of finding your answers on a forum like this

instead of wearing out the pages of the (somewhat obtuse) Logic

manual is that you end up actually talking to real people and

getting a vibe from other users.

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I'm certain David has no problem with someone posting the same

question that was answered four months ago for someone else.

This place is a dynamic, developing community of souls who come

and go - like a kind of tekkie coffee bar.

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That's cool and it makes for healthy learning.

 

Stuff user manuals !

 

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[litesnsirens]

While I am a little peculiar in that I like to refer to manuals ... always have... I also like to get opinions and tricks from these forums... and personally feel that if you don't want to answer a question ... don't ... simple as that... typing RTFM makes the foum seem unfriendly when in fact, most users on this forum seem eager to help...

 

It all depends on your learning style and we are all different.. suppose you aren't really up on all the terms or you don't understand the way the manual is worded or explains things... when questions are posted on these forums there are often a number of slightly different answers... all with a glimpse into someone elses working style worded in sometimes simple and sometimes technical wording.

 

I may have it wrong ... maybe these forums are only for people to bitch about the technical issues they are having with their systems but I have been on these forums for a few months and figured it was for anyone to pose any logic based questions.

[Ashermusic]

While I am a little peculiar in that I like to refer to manuals ... always have... I also like to get opinions and tricks from these forums... and personally feel that if you don't want to answer a question ... don't ... simple as that... typing RTFM makes the foum seem unfriendly when in fact, most users on this forum seem eager to help...

 

It all depends on your learning style and we are all different.. suppose you aren't really up on all the terms or you don't understand the way the manual is worded or explains things... when questions are posted on these forums there are often a number of slightly different answers... all with a glimpse into someone elses working style worded in sometimes simple and sometimes technical wording.

 

I may have it wrong ... maybe these forums are only for people to bitch about the technical issues they are having with their systems but I have been on these forums for a few months and figured it was for anyone to pose any logic based questions.

 

I cannot speak for everyone but personally I prefer to help those who have demonstrated that first they tried to help themselves.