Very intense sample effect - Who knows this technique?

[stretch179]

If you are into Armand van Helden, you probably know his "I Want Your Soul" which is basically made up of a sample of a Siedah Garrett tune from the 80's. The first piece below is the main vocal loop. The second is a piece of a remix of Armand's record by one of the most exciting producer/remixers out of the UK who goes by the name of Fake Blood. He does something to the original sample in his remix that just blows my mind. I have no clue how he did this. Does anyone have any incite into what is going on here? I'm losing sleep!

 

http://idisk.mac.com/libradigital/Public/logichelp/iwantyoursoulorg.mp3

http://idisk.mac.com/libradigital/Public/logichelp/iwantyoursouleffect.mp3

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

Sounds like a glitch/stutter effect using pitch and filter. Very cool.

[stretch179]

Care to elaborate? Anyone?

 

Thanks,

A

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

Certainly.

 

It's an effect that cuts up audio in many pieces. Then you can repeat, jumble, pitch, filter, or stretch the parts individually.

 

Often simply referred to as stutter effect or glitch. A very popular effect in the Eventide H3000 series.

 

There are numerous plug-ins on the market for this type of effect.

[stretch179]

Ah, so you don't think this is something that can be achieved within Logic, without relying on 3rd party equipment?

[pantomimeHorse]

"Granular-to-Go", in the Pluggo suite, enables

you to do this, but the tweaking is not easy.

 

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C

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

Ah, so you don't think this is something that can be achieved within Logic, without relying on 3rd party equipment?

You could, but not easily.

 

Logic has absolutely tons of great plug-ins which lets you do just about everything - but no stutter effect.

 

You can always cut up and move around yourself, filtering, pitching, etc. But it's not intuitive and easy like a dedicated plug-in.

 

A good trick for cutting up into many small pieces is holding hold the Option key while cutting an audio file.

 

I.e. select an audio file of 16 bars length, hold down Option and cut on bar 2 gives you 16 smaller regions instantly.

 

Now cut them up again, move them around, mute some, and apply filter and pitch automation.

[Vankarius]

It's definitely granular synthesis. Have a look at NI Reaktor, there's a grain synth in there somewhere.

 

From what I've learned through the years is that most production tricks are very easily realized...there's no voodoo at all! This guy just stumbled on some plugin preset for sure and then tweaked it a little probably...

[fadercraig]

Ah, so you don't think this is something that can be achieved within Logic, without relying on 3rd party equipment?

 

Not sure if its exactly what you are after but mcdsp's 'livecut' plugin is fantastic. Youll find it in the '3rd party plugin' thread.

 

Im using it by writing a 4 bar beat, running it through 'livecut' for 16 bars, recording the plugin output as audio then using the best bits for fills or new beats, or loops to go behind the original beat etc....

 

Cool

 

Cx

[prospect]

It sounds like a tremolo and an arpegiator sharing the same rate automation.

 

It doesn't sound like a glitch or stutter edit to me.

[fader8]

Honestly, it could just be a phrase loaded into any sampler, assign a square LFO to amp, and keep your hand on the rate knob.