Logic 9- multitrack midi recording- any better than Logic 8?

[kubaorlowski]

Can you set a midi input port for each instrument track in Logic 9?

It's so easy in all literally all of the sequencers I know except in Logic!!!

I can't find a solution for multitrack midi recording in logic 8 except from the "autodemix by channel" option. Does anybody know how to record more than 16 midi tracks simultaneously?

[David Nahmani]

Can you set a midi input port for each instrument track in Logic 9? (...) Does anybody know how to record more than 16 midi tracks simultaneously?

 

Unfortunately this cannot be done in Logic.

[kubaorlowski]

is it in the architecture of the program- was it like this allways?

[David Nahmani]

is it in the architecture of the program- was it like this allways?

 

Yes, AFAIK it's always been like this (I started using Logic with version 4).

[kubaorlowski]

I hope they'll fix it someday. I can't really see the advantages of this "port blindness" can you think of any?

[kubaorlowski]

oh by the way...can logic 9 run as a slave in rewire mode?and with which applications?

[David Nahmani]

As you said, I believe it's simply the architecture that was used to build Logic - and it never changed. I also believe that with the rare number of people in need of recording more than 16 simultaneous MIDI tracks on different channels, it's certainly not a priority for Apple to redesign the architecture of Logic just for this.

 

PS: why do you need this? What are you trying to achieve?

[kubaorlowski]

I'm working on a live project with two midi drumsets and two midi guitars.and I wanted to record that live.pretty much of improvised stuff there that I would like to rearrange after

[David Nahmani]

Why don't you record the drumsets on one track each? You could always demix by note pitch later.

[fader8]

Why don't you record the drumsets on one track each? You could always demix by note pitch later.

That would work. No reason to have the different kit pieces on different channels.

 

I can't really see the advantages of this "port blindness" can you think of any?

Sure. I don't need to worry about what port I have a controller plugged into. If I want to play instrument X, then I know channel 14 will play instrument X regardless of which keyboard controller I use. If an auxiliary fader box transmits on channel 14 then I know it will change settings on instrument X, even though it's on a different port. Same for the pedal box. I didn't have to think about which ports any of them are on, at all.

[kubaorlowski]

Yes.I can see the point there.But still I'm affraid it's more of a limitation they can't somehow overcome.Summing the midi signal-if needed could be achieved in the environment with two clicks . Years ago I used to use a Creamware interface with the routing board built on the idea very similar to Environment.There was a "sequencer destination" object instead of "sequencer input" and as far as I can remember the sequencer(Cubase) could make a distinction between ports.When you design your Logic Environment you can easily choose from which port you want the signal to come to any object. So it seems like the problem comes to LOgic's sequencer itself.But of course what a user can see at the screen might not have much to do with what's happening under the hood . Sorry for such a long story but because of my language limitations I can't make it short sometimes .Anyway Apple should at least be honest enough to say that maximum number of tracks for multitrack midi recording is 16 -no matter how many ports you have on your interface:lol: .Thanks for you help ,great forum!

[David Nahmani]

So Logic's limitations aside - why do you need more than 16 channels to record two drum kits and two guitars?

[kubaorlowski]

Well the limitations just surprised me, that's all.

Now I can think of two options to overcome the problem

1.demix- as you sugested

2.I could Use Ableton Live as a sequencer and than route midi to logic through virtual ports and use Logic just as a sound module.