jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Say I have two guitar parts, one panned left, one right. Post Pan is checked on the bus output but the effect on the aux channel is only in the middle, if I pan the aux left or right it is only left or right. How do I set up an aux send where the pan information is sent to the effect and the effect is panned as well, based on the panning of the send channel. I have tried creating a stereo aux by clicking the + on the mixer and sending the bus post pan as well with no luck. Thanks for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Say I have two guitar parts, one panned left, one right. Post Pan is checked on the bus output but the effect is only in the middle Wait wait wait! What bus output? What effect? Please describe exactly what routing you're using, what effect, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Say I have two guitar parts, one panned left, one right. Post Pan is checked on the bus output but the effect is only in the middle Wait wait wait! What bus output? What effect? Please describe exactly what routing you're using, what effect, etc... Edited the info a bit on my original post to be more clear. Audio track is panned hard right, I have a bus 1 send set up as post pan. The signal is sent to an aux track with input bus 1. Another guitar is panned hard left and I have it sent to bus 1, post pan as well. What I am trying to achieve is have the aux track output the effected guitars maintaing their panning positions. So the right guitar's effect is only coming out on the right and the left guitar is only on the left. Is that possible utilizing one bus or do I need to set up two busses with effects on each? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 OK much clearer now thanks. Yes, what you want is possible, and the way you're doing it is right. But you're still not telling us which effect you're using? Also make sure that effect is a stereo one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Using the universal audio UAD EMT 250 reverb unit which can be either mono or stereo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Arghh... can't test that here. Test with a Logic plug-in, say Amp Designer for example, and make sure it works properly? That way you can narrow down the problem to either your routing/configuration, or to the UAD unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Ok, set up amp designer on the sam aux track as the reverb, bybassed the reverb. I have only one of the guitars soloed and panned right, I still hear the affected amp sound on the left as well as the right though. Not sure if it matters but realized I am actually using the UAD Plate 140 reverb on the guitar. When I mute the aux track I hear just the audio guitar track on the right but when not bypassed I hear the guitar across the whole stereo image. http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6338/picture1ju.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Those are Post-fader sends. You want Post-pan sends. Click-hold the sends and choose "Post Pan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Crap, I had set them back when I was trying to trouble shoot. I set them to post pan and now the amp designer is only coming out on the right side like it should. I guess the reverbs I am using are not capable of handling panned material like that. Does that seem right to you? Thanks a lot for the help David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Stereo reverbs are just that, stereo reverbs. If you want to keep the return channels isolated, use two mono auxes and insert a mono instance on each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Well I don't know that reverb. Reverbs can either create reflections throughout the stereo field, which usually gives a more natural result, or create reflections focused on the same area of the stereo field as the input signal - but that tends to sound a bit unnatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonwagner Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Cool thanks for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spunkadellic Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 why dont you just forget bussing altogether, and put the fx directly on the audio tracks you want to pan all wacky now your fx will pan with the guitars - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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