moneybeats Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 In Logic 8 When using the piano role, is it possible to divide the beat by 5 or 7... In other words, to use 20th or 28th notes? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiogrocery Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 When using the piano role, is it possible to divide the beat by 5 or 7... If I understand correctly you can try to set the project time signature to say 5/8 or 7/8 ? In other words, to use 20th or 28th notes? Here I can not follow what you try to achieve ...? For example you can set the Piano Roll grid division in the Transport box ( below the Time Sig ) but it will give you 16,24, 32 etc... In theory you can set a note length say to 28th since the midi grid is shown in ticks - my calculation shows that 28th = 137.142.... ticks etc.. I can make a Transform Window preset so you can process the note lengths to 20th or 28th if you need that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneybeats Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 Scandor, Thanks for your response. I would like to keep the project time signature in 4/4 but have 5 or 7 subdivisions of the beat on the piano roll. Instead of just multiples of 2 or 3. I write modern "classical" music that has no pulse. I improvise at the keyboard and then transcribe this into normal notation. While doing this transcription I often adjust the beat division in the transport bar to see which one comes closest to what I've improvised at any given point in the piece. Often I feel that I need 5 or 7 subdivisions of a single beat in 4/4. It's actually not that big of a deal since I am fully capable of figuring out how to notate the rhythms without the piano roll grid...it would just make it easier and faster if I could type in a 20 in the division box and thereby get 5 sub divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiogrocery Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Often I feel that I need 5 or 7 subdivisions of a single beat in 4/4. I see... There are many ways to solve that in a "Dummy" way so here is one of them... Have a look at the picture below: 1/ I have created 5 dummy note event grid blocks which emulates old step sequencer ( all off them are muted and use different midi channel ). Each "dummy" block=768 ticks... The dummy blocks are muted and use different midi color channel ( L9 only ) 2/ The Dummy Note Block Event Length = 768 ticks is equivalent of . . 3 48 if a default ( 16th grid division ) is selected in the Transport. 3/ It is the example "Actual note" you must to fit. 4/ In this step you have to select the desired "dummy note/block" key-command and hit your Key Command " Go to Selection Start" so the Playhead snaps to there. 5/ Here you select the random position note event you like to quantize/snap to 5 and hit your "Pickup Clock" Key-Command which must move/snap the target note to the Playhead position. http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/295/dummygrid.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneybeats Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 wow. Thank you for the very detailed explanation. I think that will work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Or use tuplet tool in score, You might want to search 'tuplets'. May need to fiddle in piano roll too. http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=40341&highlight=tuplet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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