ski Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi, Yes, still on 9.0.0... Found what I think is a bug (several, actually...) a) Selected three regions (harp) and packed them into a folder. Problem #1: the track type did not change to 'folder' as I would have expected. It retained the name of the harp instrument but indeed a folder was created on that track. I confirmed that the folder contained the three regions, however, as seen in the score editor. b) On another harp track (arrange area, top level) I recorded another harp part. Then I clicked/dragged the region to the folder, anticipating that the region would now be found within the folder. The region disappeared, as though it had been put into the folder, but the part would not play. Tried this several times, same result. Can anyone repeat this behavior on either 9.0.0 or 9.0.1? Thanks, -=sKi=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 As for a), is this really a problem ? If all contained tracks are of the same channel/instrument, wouldn't it just make sense to simply reflect this in the arrangement layer above, so you don't have to go diving in there to find out ? And to check if it's design or bug, change one of the contained track's channels to something else and see if the icon in the arrangement changes to a folder. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks for your reply. As for a), is this really a problem ? If all contained tracks are of the same channel/instrument, wouldn't it just make sense to simply reflect this in the arrangement layer above, so you don't have to go diving in there to find out ? There are two methods for displaying one instrument part consisting of non-contiguous regions in the score editor by itself: packing the regions into a folder and viewing the contents of the folder, or, creating a score set. Otherwise, the only other method for viewing all regions simultaneously is to view the top level of the arrange area. And if you're dealing with a dense orchestral score and you want to isolate a single instrument and all of its regions for editing -- and only that instrument's regions -- the above two methods are the only ones available. So yes, it's a problem if I want to use the method of using a folder instead of creating a score set. I have no problem with diving in and out of a folder. It's so easy. Double click and I'm in, double click and I'm out. And when I'm in the folder, any alternate takes or key-switch and controller tracks are all spread out as I like them. Exit the folder and I see a single track for the instrument. Voila! And to check if it's design or bug, change one of the contained track's channels to something else and see if the icon in the arrangement changes to a folder. Not sure I understand, but I'll try it and post back. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 It's me who doesn't quite get it yet. So it's not just that the arrangement's track icon doesn't change from Harp to Folder, as I assumed, but that the ability to select the Folder and have it's contents displayed in a linked Score window has stopped working ? Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 OK, I tried what you suggested. No, the track does not change to a folder. Tried packing and unpacking the folder several times. Twice it created a folder on a channel strip with the channel strip name of "harp". The third time I tried, it created a folder track as expected. Moved an unrelated region into that folder and entered the folder. That part -- an oboe part -- appeared in the track but was assigned to "no output". My opinion? Bug, unquestionably. Still, I'd appreciate it if you or others could try and replicate this behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 My L9 is still in the mail, so others may step forward here. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks Christian. I made a movie demonstrating the behavior. But what I didn't mention in the movie... If a single track's worth of regions is selected and you pack them into a folder, the track icon doesn't change to folder. But if two track's worth of regions are selected and they're packed into a folder, voila, the track icon changes to a folder. Common to both folder tracks is that if you move a region into the track afterwards, it won't play because the track assignment becomes set to "no output". GAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thanks Christian. I made a movie demonstrating the behavior. But what I didn't mention in the movie... If a single track's worth of regions is selected and you pack them into a folder, the track icon doesn't change to folder. But if two track's worth of regions are selected and they're packed into a folder, voila, the track icon changes to a folder. Common to both folder tracks is that if you move a region into the track afterwards, it won't play because the track assignment becomes set to "no output". GAH! I can confirm this behavior in 9.0.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Thank you for confirming, Eric! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashermusic Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Confirmed in 9.0.1 on an Intel Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Thank you very much Jay! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Additional bugginess (possibly).... Every time I pack a folder and then hit UNDO to unpack it, Logic crashes. Hate to ask anyone to test this, but if anyone's game....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounik Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Additional bugginess (possibly).... Every time I pack a folder and then hit UNDO to unpack it, Logic crashes. Hate to ask anyone to test this, but if anyone's game....... I'm game... No crashes here when packing a folder and then choosing Undo on 9.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 A belated (1-day late) thank you for checking this out Rounik! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounik Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 No problem Ski! Are you still getting constant crashes when undoing packing a folder? Is this when packing MIDI and/or Audio regions? What about the OS. Are you on 10.5.6 as your sig says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi Rounik, Oops... Just updated my profile --- I'm on 10.5.7 I had several more crashes and then at one point Logic displayed a message, one I've never seen before: it said something about how it was going to reset some preference settings but that it would give me the option to restore my previous settings when I quit Logic. Well, it never offered me that option, but be that as it may, since getting that message I haven't experienced the crashes I reported re unpacking folders. BTW, I've only been dealing with MIDI tracks. Cheers! -=sKi=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounik Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Hi Ski, Wow... never come across an error message like that before. New version of Logic gives us new and innovative error messages eh Glad that whatever has happened the packing folder issue seems solved. I was also only packing MIDI regions and then tried with audio regions later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmusicny Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I'm going to hazard a guess that part a) of this is actually a feature (the rest is obviously bug). EVERY time i have ever packed a folder containing objects from just one track, the very next thing i do is change that track's arming from "folder" to the actual track. Reason? You can apply automation to that folder track without having to dive into the folder(s). i like that they have made this automatic (if they indeed meant to do it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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