Startover Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've been working with Garageband for awhile now and will be purchasing Logic soon. I own a macbook pro. I read somewhere that an external hardrive is a necessity. Just some quick questions, why isn't it advisable to install all 50gigs of the software on a single hardrive? And why is it better to record to an external hardrive? I have an external USB 2.0 7200rpm Hardrive, if external is necessary. Can you guys give me a mental picture of how installation and working in the Logic environment should be? Thanks alot, I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hello Startover, and welcome to our community! There's a bit of confusion in your questions - looks like you may have gotten false advice: an external hardrive is a necessity Nonsense. Only what's listed on Apple's "Minimum Requirements" is a necessity. why isn't it advisable to install all 50gigs of the software on a single hardrive? It is. The recommended way to install Logic is to let the Logic installer do its thing as the developers intended it - that means installing all 50 gigs of the software on a single hard drive, your system drive. And why is it better to record to an external hardrive? It's not. Most external drives are slower than internal drives. It is, however, recommended to record audio onto a secondary drive: any drive other than your system drive. Ideally, that would be a second internal drive. The reason is that this distributes the tasks of using the drive for virtual memory (OS X task, using the system drive) and reading/writing audio (Logic tasks, using the secondary drive) onto two different drives. I have an external USB 2.0 7200rpm Hardrive, if external is necessary. USB is not recommended for audio work. You'll get better results by using a single drive for OS X and Logic and your projects, than by using an external USB 2.0 drive. Can you guys give me a mental picture of how installation and working in the Logic environment should be? Keep it simple. Let the installer do its thing, meaning install everything on your system drive. If you can, and if you feel you need it, get yourself a second internal SATA drive to save your Logic projects to. What Mac are you using anyway? Please add your Logic version and system info to your signature: Read Me Before Posting - Forum Guidelines (#5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Startover Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm using the latest 13' Macbook Pro so internal Sata drive is out of the question. I have the 250gb internal hardrive. So, what you are saying is everything can be worked off of that hardrive? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarekith Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, there should be no issue at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I'm using the latest 13' Macbook Pro so internal Sata drive is out of the question. I have the 250gb internal hardrive. So, what you are saying is everything can be worked off of that hardrive? Thanks. Here is a suggestion. Use the Disk utility program and set aside a section of your internal hard drive for your Audio. Set your audio recording path to that partition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Use the Disk utility program and set aside a section of your internal hard drive for your Audio. Set your audio recording path to that partition. By doing that you put even more strain on the drive, as you force it to constantly jump back and forth physically between the partitions. Is that the smart thing to do ? Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Partitioning drives is soooo 90's I woud not partition the drive. Buy a 500 GB internal drive instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree, keep it simple means don't partition, put everything on the internal and work like that. If you're getting "disk too slow" errors, then consider outfitting your macbook pro with an eSATA card, and get yourself an eSATA drive. But depending on what kind of work you're doing, you may never need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree, keep it simple means don't partition, put everything on the internal and work like that. If you're getting "disk too slow" errors, then consider outfitting your macbook pro with an eSATA card, and get yourself an eSATA drive. But depending on what kind of work you're doing, you may never need it. They have stripped the pc card slot from all MacBook Pros except the 17". But there is a nice solution here: http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Use the Disk utility program and set aside a section of your internal hard drive for your Audio. Set your audio recording path to that partition. By doing that you put even more strain on the drive, as you force it to constantly jump back and forth physically between the partitions. Is that the smart thing to do ? Christian I will have to let you know. I don't know where it is jumping to on one big drive to find the audio files. I would imagine they are scattered all over the place. Just like when you freeze things. With the partition they are in one section - and the project is moved to an external after I am through with it. I am not sure of what the trade off is. A second internal is a nice option, I don't happen to have that option. I am using a small white macbook with 2G RAM. I gave 20GB for my audio. In fact, I like to convert the midi files to Audio as soon as I am happy with it. Most of the audio with FX get converted to a new audio file too. I have had over 100 audio tracks running, low CPU usage. I don't need anywhere near that many tracks for any one project. It seems to be working better this way... seems to be. I expect I will be getting a letter in the mail any day now. It will be from the International Federation of Hard drives asking me to stop working my drive so hard or there will be trouble. This comp has a 4G Ram limit and I will be needing a newer comp soon anyway. Everything is safe on the External so failure means replacement with a larger, newer drive - or a totally new comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlon Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Installing the program to the same disk isnt an option, it´s a necessity. The reason for recording to another disk is because it´s less stressful for the the program disk to only have to cope with one mission at a time so to speak. Otherwise it has to work on two spaces at the same time, or make it appear as it´s doing this. The overall result will be sluggish when it has to do a lot of computation in the same "realtime" Installing pretty much handles itself. Working with the program is, to my mind, really easy when you´ve gotten through the basics. The basics of Logic can be a punishment to get around, but once done you´ll have a very transparent program which you can work along the lines you want it to. I think the way people work with Logic is extremely different from person to person. cheers, x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewave Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 They have stripped the pc card slot from all MacBook Pros except the 17". But there is a nice solution here: http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/ Hey Eric, thanks for posting this. Very cool! Its a great option for those of us whom are looking for more functionality from our laptops. Right now there including a free enclosure for the superdrive. I'm considering getting it. EDIT: This is a very useful thread by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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