TheDriller Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hi lads, Im having some weird issues with using Flex on an Apple Loop from the Jam Pack libraries. I have a House track in the works at the moment, and one of the percussion parts is a kinda african drum/bongo apple loop. so i used flex on the region to get some of the hits tight with the kick and snare, sounds great and i then copy/paste the whole programmed beat to structure the song as usual. all good so far. but some times on playback that bongo track will randomly hit a point where it de-synch from the rhythm and turn into a mess. the only way to get it back to normal is to delete all regions after the offending region and copy-paste again. and it will be fine for a while and then suddenly this will happen again in a different place on the timeline. i've never had a problem like this before, but this is the first time i have flexed an apple loop, so maybe that is the problem? also, the problem recurs between closing/opening the project. it was perfect when i closed it last night, now that bug has popped up again today. anyone know what this is about? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriller Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Bump. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I don't have a clue what is causing that but maybe you can get around it by first converting the apple loops to a wav file. After that the loop may end up being the wrong tempo but at this point you could use flex to pull it back to size and then flex the transients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriller Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 what really baffles me about his bug is that i'm not flexing that much, just aligning beats 1, 2, 3, and 4 with the grid. and when it "slips" it doesn't just go back to its unflexed state, it goes ape-s#!+, and the channel becomes a garbled rhythmical mess. what the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Actually, why don't you just bounce in place the flexed loop and work with that instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriller Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Actually, why don't you just bounce in place the flexed loop and work with that instead? sure, i ended up doing that in the end, but i shouldn't have to do that at all. its lucky this was just a loop, what am i supposed to do when it bugs out again in a different project, and destroys a half-hour worth of vocal editing? or some other equally comlex work? jeez, if the flex feature turns out to be not stable, how is one supposed to actually use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I agree, that's a scary prospect if you can't count on your flex edits to stay in place. I mentioned the bounce-in-place solution simply because it looks like some are incorporating this into their workflow in any event. Kind of like when you glue a comp together to make sure the edits never get messed up. I'm wondering if the flakiness is more of an apple loop thing..... I've read that there's been some screwy stuff in L9 with the loops not keeping their transposition parameters or transposing in unpredictable ways. That might be what's whacking your edits out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriller Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 True, it could be an Apple Loop problem. so far it hasn't happened in any other projects, so i'll cross my fingers. i must emphasise, its not a matter of the "edits" being out of whack, the whole track turns into a contorted rhythmic mess when this bug happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTOZ Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 so glad i found someone else who experienced this problem. it is driving me crazy and is related to flex and apple loops for sure. I reload my song and out of the blue it is doing CRAZY stuff all out of time, when just a few minutes back it was super perfect... there seems to be another quicker fix than delete copy paste.... any of your tracks which has flex on it, actually turn flex OFF, then go back to the mode it was on.. you only need to do this on ONE flex track and everything after a short pause should resync again for that session. Frustrating and it shows hiw broken flex is. Sorry, but thats BROKEN in a major way as far as i am concerned. Not to be able to reload one of my tracks that use appleloops with flex on them and have the track in sync automatically, is disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTOZ Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 no one else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6smith Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 no one else? Not seen this... How about posting up some screenshots before and after that demonstrate the issue if there are visual clues/changes when it happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Sandvik Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Actually, why don't you just bounce in place the flexed loop and work with that instead? sure, i ended up doing that in the end, but i shouldn't have to do that at all. I would do this as the Flex editor inserts the flex info to the original AIFF file and maybe it is best to keep those pristine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I've also found that glueing the flexed regions together (make a copy first) works great for creating a new file that has all the edits without having to deal with bounce in place. It's kind of an unofficial "Render Flexed Regions" command. Of course this only works with several regions at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTOZ Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 no one else? Not seen this... How about posting up some screenshots before and after that demonstrate the issue if there are visual clues/changes when it happens? of course, i will take a video very soon and upload it and post back when done.. thanks for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedeal7 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 This same problem has been driving me crazy….I have a heavily edited loop track that I tried to flex and it freaked out and when I turned flex off, it remained messed up. This solved the problem for me. 1. Click on the track. 2. Click info at the top left. 3. Tick the box "follow tempo" Problem solved for me. Hope that helps others with the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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