Kanvas Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hi everybody I need to know how to make the 'white noise' sound heard in many progressive house productions today. I am not talking about the swush sound but the basic White noise like in the songs below: The effect after 3 seconds and the longer one at 32 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2zHK265ceM And maybe more clearer in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJHKoRE-3Vw Please help me The best thing would be if someone could make a preset I can use in logic or if not maybe just talk me through it step by step Many thanks in advance! Kanvas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apoplexia.music Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 all you need to do is create an ES2 and tweak around with the waveforms (the third ocsillator has a white/colourd noise waveform) or download the YMCK Magical 8-bit plug-in which has a raw white noise waveform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtees Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 for white noise I love the es p synth that comes with logic... very simple to use, simply slide the noise fader up and bring all the others down. Then play with resonance and cut off to taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishansson Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Bring up the ES P synth, and load this preset attached to the post. This may be a good starting point for you. The easy way around, you could load the Test Oscillator plugin and set it to White Noise, but that just sounds too easy.. and the ES P way you get to create exactly (if not close) to what you want. Hope it works for you. White Noise.pst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 The best thing would be if someone could make a preset I can use in logic or if not maybe just talk me through it step by step Kanvas, this is not how it works. No one is really interested in making presets for you and frankly, why should they (unless you pay them, which is a totally different matter). Likewise, begging for a step-by-step hand-holding guidethrough is displaying the same unwillingness to put some effort in by yourself. At one point you will have to sit down, try things, crack open the manual, experiment. And the more you are able to show that you have tried, that you have read the manual , that you have experimented and while doing so you hit a roadblock which you need specific help for, the more people will be inclined to help you. Your current approach might work this time, but believe me, it won't last far. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knock Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 "At one point you will have to sit down, try things, crack open the manual, experiment. And the more you are able to show that you have tried, that you have read the manual , that you have experimented and while doing so you hit a roadblock which you need specific help for, the more people will be inclined to help you. " i agree that experimenting is the best way to learn and indeed be unique however, pouring through the manual is no where near as thrilling as the dynamic "help" and guidance that this web site provides. if indeed we all learned the manual fom page 1 to 9999999 would there be a logic pro help website at all? and dave's book wouldn't sell and we would all churn out the a to z 4/4 verse chorus verse chorus loop ridden vat of sh't that sells in bucket loads and live in mansions full of hand maids and sleep until 2pm engorged with fine foods and the finest wine known to mankind? (come to think of it...i,m gonna read the manual hee hee!) knock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Fair enough. Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanvas Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Thanks a lot for your quick answers. I will look into the ES P and ES2 as suggested and see what works best for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanvas Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 all you need to do is create an ES2 and tweak around with the waveforms (the third ocsillator has a white/colourd noise waveform) or download the YMCK Magical 8-bit plug-in which has a raw white noise waveform Just downloaded the Magical 8-bit, it is a cool little freeware, It can make the white noise Thanks for the tip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 i agree that experimenting is the best way to learn and indeed be uniquehowever, pouring through the manual is no where near as thrilling as the dynamic "help" and guidance that this web site provides. if indeed we all learned the manual fom page 1 to 9999999 would there be a logic pro help website at all? I hear you knock(ing). There are plenty of times when folks here will chip in and try and help with a patch, usually when the OP has already tried and can't quite get it right, or if the sound is complex and they aren't clear on the approach. But in this case I have to agree with Christian. No offense to the OP here, but asking about calling up a basic oscillator waveform that's included in multiple Logic instruments, including even the test oscillator, does show a certain lack of initiative. I can understand laziness, but if we give you a fish, you'll only eat for a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanvas Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 i agree that experimenting is the best way to learn and indeed be uniquehowever, pouring through the manual is no where near as thrilling as the dynamic "help" and guidance that this web site provides. if indeed we all learned the manual fom page 1 to 9999999 would there be a logic pro help website at all? I hear you knock(ing). There are plenty of times when folks here will chip in and try and help with a patch, usually when the OP has already tried and can't quite get it right, or if the sound is complex and they aren't clear on the approach. But in this case I have to agree with Christian. No offense to the OP here, but asking about calling up a basic oscillator waveform that's included in multiple Logic instruments, including even the test oscillator, does show a certain lack of initiative. I can understand laziness, but if we give you a fish, you'll only eat for a day. I hear what you are saying. I will take it up for consideration before posting again.. Sorry for the inconvienence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinMan Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 i agree that experimenting is the best way to learn and indeed be uniquehowever, pouring through the manual is no where near as thrilling as the dynamic "help" and guidance that this web site provides. if indeed we all learned the manual fom page 1 to 9999999 would there be a logic pro help website at all? I hear you knock(ing). There are plenty of times when folks here will chip in and try and help with a patch, usually when the OP has already tried and can't quite get it right, or if the sound is complex and they aren't clear on the approach. But in this case I have to agree with Christian. No offense to the OP here, but asking about calling up a basic oscillator waveform that's included in multiple Logic instruments, including even the test oscillator, does show a certain lack of initiative. I can understand laziness, but if we give you a fish, you'll only eat for a day. I hear what you are saying. I will take it up for consideration before posting again.. Sorry for the inconvienence I have been reading ALL the forums here for a day or so now (after reading the MANUAL TWICE over the last week ) and this is an amazing community and I look forward to belonging here in my own way. Yet I am now THOROUGHLY TERRIFIED of ever asking a question here because I know Christian/FuzzFilth will use his EVIL POWERS to SHAME ME! (Okay - I've probably already broken an Unspoken Law here by making these comments, so I'll just say YOU GUYS ALL ROCK and BE THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SUCH AN AMAZING CREATIVE TOOL SUCH AS LOGIC! Peace out, Hello to all, ReinMan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knock Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 "I have been reading ALL the forums here for a day or so now (after reading the MANUAL TWICE over the last week Wink ) and this is an amazing community and I look forward to belonging here in my own way. Yet I am now THOROUGHLY TERRIFIED of ever asking a question here" everyone is at different levels in all walks of life, nothing gives me a better thrill (well almost nothing) than being able to pass on some knowledge i have gleaned from hours of reading, searching this forum and you tube. I think we all have one thing in common here a passion for logic vive le difference! and be bold, ask the question and most of all...experiment for yourself after all, it never did Baron Frankenstein any harm did it? merry christmas all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fader8 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Yet I am now THOROUGHLY TERRIFIED of ever asking a question here because I know Christian/FuzzFilth will use his EVIL POWERS to SHAME ME! Hi ReinMan, welcome to the forum. I'm terrified that people won't ask questions and then we wouldn't get to experience Christian's evil powers. Never underestimate the entertainment value of forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45rpm Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 the entertainment value of forums I greatly appreciate Christian's posts here, and I think there's a lot of validity to what he said. However, I did find it entertaining to notice that he was typing the words "no one is really interested in making presets for you" at roughly the same moment that chrishansson was posting a preset. Great timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I am now THOROUGHLY TERRIFIED of ever asking a question here because I know Christian/FuzzFilth will use his EVIL POWERS to SHAME ME! Welcome to the Forum. Now go ahead and ask about your Bounces being too quiet, I dare you ! Christian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knock Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 "Welcome to the Forum. Now go ahead and ask about your Bounces being too quiet, I dare you ! Christian" my bounces are too quiet waddu i do waddu i do i have a big mac with micro-chips you know the big beige one i'd had a bad day your soundtrack sounds great dont kill me with your sooperpowers hee hee ian aka ...knock....x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMeanGuyIsBack Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 This thread really exemplifies in many ways how these type of forums....have issues....such a turn off to see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
involver Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 This thread really exemplifies in many ways how these type of forums....have issues....such a turn off to see.... I thought everyone was quite tame. Please remember that members here are helping out of the goodness of their heart. No one is getting paid (apart from David, who pays to keep the forum running). Asking lazy questions, not taking the care to word questions carefully, and failing to investigate the manual or try to solve the problem yourself before asking is a little disrespectful to those who do take the time to give advice. Just my $0.02. PS. Having said that, the OP wasn't that bad. I just wish people would try to solve problems themselves and understand how to do things instead of looking for quick fixes/cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMeanGuyIsBack Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I gather you knew exactly what I mean then...? I think that speaks for itself. But I didn't say what part I meant. Anyway, not a big deal, it's a turn off, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinMan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Damn - sorry - I was not "watching" this thread. I feel my request for a group hug now may be too late. But... I've got some beers in the fridge - will that do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doshida Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 This link might help out if you are trying to use the Es2 for white noise: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun07/articles/logictech_0607.htm The only way I know how to create this white noise so far in Es2 is by turning the first 2 oscilators off and setting the third to noise. In addition the first box in the router set the target to amp and the source to Envelope3 (havn't yet figured out exactly what that does but it seems to work) You'll want the controls on env3 to be maxed out for the most part (i havnt found attack to make much of a difference however). I hope this helps and I agree with the critics on this thread you shouldn't have your hand held and be told this and that but the truth is I am offering an unholy alliance to anyone else who can add to this information The issue I'm having so far is that I havn't really been able to cusomize the sound very well. the filter is where you really get your "woosh" sound from. drive and res are self explanitory, and the cut is where you get most of the sweeping from. In addition FM creates a wobble which I'm shure you'll figure out if you play with it. See was that so bad? I didn't go "ok you put this setting at this number.." and so on It was an explanation of how things work which is fair and in my opinion waaay more helpful then a hold-your-hand walkthrough. NOW if I could get some help... I cant get rid of the damn flange. In other words how come I can't get a pure white noise effect? ok unholy alliance begin!! 8) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 NOW if I could get some help... I cant get rid of the damn flange. In other words how come I can't get a pure white noise effect? ok unholy alliance begin!! 8) ... Click the b/p button on all modulation routings. Turn "Intensity" all the way down on the Chorus/Flanger/Phaser section at the top right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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