Jump to content

Es2 Dubstep Bass

Recommended Posts

First off total noob here so if i get any of my terminology incorrect or am hard to understand I apologise in advance.


As per the subject I'm trying to create a wobble bass


I Have read the related articles to try and solve the problem without a new query but have not succeeded.


I understand that the cutoff modulation must be set to LFO 1 in order to re-trigger each time to keep the consistency


When using LFO1 for cutoff there is always the distinct sound of the note played first, where i am looking to start the wobble low and rise and fall or choose where in the wobble it starts. (see attached Need Help: cold step 1/2 bars 9-10 and my attempt cold step 1/2 LFO1 trying to emulate the same sound).

I realise the all Es2 Tracks use the LFO2 for the cutoff, upon browsing your forums i learnt my mistake and am trying to keep the same sounds but with LFO1 for cutoff.



My attempts at altering the delay or attack to adjust the rise and fall have proved unsuccessful.


Any help with this or other tips to get me off the greatly appreciated

Need Help.logic.zip

Cut off difficulties

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the link was a great help.


It seems that when the cut off is modulated by LFO 2, if the rate was say 1/2d it would fall out of time with the beat, as opposed to 1/2 or 1/2t.


can some one explain what the t in 1/2t or d in 1/2d means, and whats it's relation to tempo. i'm sure this is a bit of an elementary question but like i say completely new to the game.


thanks again

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

So, how does this video answer JD1981's question?

The LFO2 on the ES2 doesn't re-trigger on new midi notes, so this leads to weird things happening, right?

(For me, I've been trying to write complex wobbles of the LFO2 with track automation, and it seems like they play back differently at random different times. I can't tell if it has to do with where I set the playhead, or what, but it's especially evident in the longer note parts, like 1/2 and 1/1.)


So then the solution would seem to be to use the LFO1 instead, and this handy conversion chart: http://web.forret.com/tools/bpm_tempo.asp?bpm=140&beat=4&base=4


But then there's the problem that the LFO1 starts at the top of the wave or something, so you get that unwanted initial sound.


So, is the answer to make separate tracks for each type of note, and mute and un-mute midi notes all over the place? Does that somehow keep the LFO2 consistent? Even if that's true, it seems horribly tedious.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

well, i guess ski kind of solves my problem here: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=333214&sid=95fea1244c0f91de6ea491419d254add


"2) sometimes the playback behavior of the beat-sync'd LFO start off being a bit inconsistent but eventually straightens itself out. Starting playback from several measures before the section you want to hear is an annoying but useful approach."


So the LFO2 on the ES2 is just ... inconsistent? Great.


Maybe the solution is a balance between track automation and having several tracks with the different settings of LFO2. It seems like this problem only cropped up for me when I started trying to make my dubstep wobbles entirely with automation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey guys, I made the tutorial linked above. Must have missed this post somehow. Anyway, check my youtube channel for more synthesis tutorials. It's in my sig. Very flattered you all liked it so much!


I also have something of a solution to the synced LFO problem. I have found that leaving the synth unfiltered and using the autofilter's LFO can get better results. An additional advantage of this method is that this LFO has a "phase" control. That means that you can control the 'groove' of your wobble relative to the beat much better than you can with the ES2's LFO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah I was really pleased when I realised I could do that. As well as giving you much better control over your filter LFO, it lets you do 'multiwobbles' - you can use the synth's LFO to wobble the sound in one particular way (e.g. modulating FM or pulse-width) with the Autofilter covering filter duties. It's like having 2 synced LFOs!
Link to comment
Share on other sites


This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Create New...