zzzsleepzzz Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hello, Quick question. I've been reading everything I can find on this subject but still can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong or if it's even possible. Here's what I'm trying to do... I'm looking for a way to quantize the flex markers I create on an audio track...like being able to pick the value of it and having the flex markers move in accordance to this. This is my method so far... I record the audio clip. Turn on Flextime and choose the correct type. I put all my markers where I want them...and that's as far as I get. I've tried the quantizing key command. Nothing. I've tried using the inspector on the left which seems to be where I should be able to do this and the closest I can get messing around there is just getting the first flex marker in the audio to move. I know I'm just missing one little step but have been going nuts trying to figure it out. I'm sure there is a way to do it...right now moving all those little markers and trying to snap them into place has grown to be quite a pain lol. What am I doing wrong here?! Thanks! Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 The Flex Markers that you painstakingly dropped directly into a region in the arrange won't automatically snap to Q values, instead, you use those to manually stretch and compress sections of audio in the region. It's the transient markers that are affected by the quantization settings. These are created by the detection process. You'll find those in the sample editor where they can be moved around or added and subtracted. You can also see them in a region in the arrange when Flex view is enabled. But perhaps you aren't using the quantization settings properly? For one thing, just using the Q command won't do anything unless you've chosen a value beforehand, either in the inspector or when editing MIDI in the piano roll. Short story: Transient markers: in the sample editor. Flex markers: in the Arrange. You don't need Flex markers to quantize audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzsleepzzz Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Hmmm that's interesting... I'm really surprised there is no way to do that with the flex window... I just opened up a sample in sample editor to mess with...detected the transients then adjust the incorrect ones. Found "quantize engine", choose the "guitar chords" preset...16th notes, then process, and it complete ruined the part and isn't "undoable". Wow! Even if I could get this sample editor function to work I'm scared to death of doing something that I can't undo... Any thoughts on this? Thanks! Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Justin, you're doing things wrong, as Camillo stated. You don't "Quantize Flex Markers", that's not what Flex Markers are for. Also not sure what you call the Flex window? Maybe you meant the Arrange area in Flex view? Don't use the Quantize engine, instead, use the Sample editor to adjust the positions of your Transient markers, then quantize the region in the Inspector, at the top, in the region parameters. Much like you would quantize a MIDI region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzsleepzzz Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Ohhh ok...I'm sorry...I think I get it now! Yeah I did mean the arrange window... In both of your opinions does it retain a pretty decent quality...say for guitar chords that are reeeeeally close and just need a nudge? I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say that Flexmode isn't for quantizing? I've been doing it that way, just creating markers and dragging them to place where they should be quantized. If the performance is close it sounds pretty good...not close-sounds pretty terrible. I just gave this method a shot...I went into the sample editor, detected then adjusted the transients, but I can't seem to find where to quantize in the inspector? When I'm in the arrange window, if I have a region selected there is no quantize functions in the inspector window, but if I don't have any region selected all the quantize functions are there. When you say that I do it the same way I quantize midi-I always do that in the piano roll. It's really easy it's just right on the top of the piano roll where you select the value then hit "Q". I can't seem to find a window like this anywhere else...arrggh!! I know I'm just being a moron right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Sounds like you need to do a read-up on how the quantization settings work! Select your region. Go to upper left in Arrange. Click next to the word "Quantize" to get the same choices you have in the piano roll. And there's more, such as "percentage" under the Advanced Quantization disclosure triangle. Re - guitar chords. I use Polyphonic Flex mode every time, with the complex box checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 you say that Flexmode isn't for quantizing? Nobody said that. I think you're getting confused by the terminology here. Flex Markers are not used by Logic's quantize functions, Transient Markers are. Both those types of markers are present when turning on a Flex Mode for the track. And for Logic to actually display them in the Arrange area you need to turn on the Flex View. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzsleepzzz Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 AHHHHHHHH!!!!!! THIS WORKS AMAZING!!! Thanks for taking the time to take a screenshot and explaining it all again! I've always had problems with reading comprehension...sometimes saying the same thing twice but rearranging one word differently the second time around is all it takes before I actually "get it". It's kind of the problem I have with manuals sometimes. That description there is exactly what I needed...I've done it now on probably 10 regions...works like a charm!!! Thank you guys both SOOO much!! You have no idea how much time you've saved me when editing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Great! Thanks Camillo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzsleepzzz Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 you say that Flexmode isn't for quantizing? Nobody said that. I think you're getting confused by the terminology here. Flex Markers are not used by Logic's quantize functions, Transient Markers are. Both those types of markers are present when turning on a Flex Mode for the track. And for Logic to actually display them in the Arrange area you need to turn on the Flex View. Ahhh ok! That totally makes sense now looking at it... Thanks David! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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