Taking Davi'ds classes in January, what books should I...

[clintoncole]

Taking Davi'ds classes in January, what books should I research before the classes. You guys know I just jumped in with no knowledge of music and I want to get 100% out of the class that it has to offer. I have his two books he wrote but do I need to know music history, or anything for things to make sense in the class?

[triplets]

You need to learn an instrument, period.

[clintoncole]

You need to learn an instrument, period.

His classes aren't learning how to play instruments, it's learning how to use logic. There are music producers out there I L-O-V-E who use a synthesizer and midi keyboard ONLY. Please refrain from useless comments like these, that don't help me out whatsoever and stay on topicc!

 

Here's some music I love and these people make a decent/good living:

Millionaires - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otJXEYw3YmE

The Medic Droid -

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Jeffree Star -

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Ke$ha - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUhCQUC-LJA

 

I have plenty more examples if you'd like them.

 

P.S. I know YOU probably don't like this music but that's not the point ;]

[triplets]

Nice, I think I hit a nerve there. Take a chill pill.

 

You asked: "What should I do to get a 100% out of the Logic courses?"

 

Answer: "If you have no music knowledge, like you said yourself, learn an instrument. That can be vocals, keyboards, drums, guitars.

So let me ask you this:

A synth is not an instrument? Of course it is. A midi keyboard is a small piano where you can hit some notes and chords. Gotta know how to do it and how it all makes sense.

There's only so much you can do with learning how to insert a plugin, or tweak an effect, or add layers of sounds and beats.

The end result is what matters: is it musical enough so that you like it and other people will too."

 

I took his classes, I know what he talks about. Everything he teaches makes more sense if you know some music theory and how to play an instrument.

I'm not saying anything useless.

I'm staying on topic.

[clintoncole]

Nice, I think I hit a nerve there. Take a chill pill.

 

You asked: "What should I do to get a 100% out of the Logic courses?"

 

Answer: "If you have no music knowledge, like you said yourself, learn an instrument. That can be vocals, keyboards, drums, guitars.

So let me ask you this:

A synth is not an instrument? Of course it is. A midi keyboard is a small piano where you can hit some notes and chords. Gotta know how to do it and how it all makes sense.

There's only so much you can do with learning how to insert a plugin, or tweak an effect, or add layers of sounds and beats.

The end result is what matters: is it musical enough so that you like it and other people will too."

 

I took his classes, I know what he talks about. Everything he teaches makes more sense if you know some music theory and how to play an instrument.

I'm not saying anything useless.

I'm staying on topic.

 

Music theory it is, thanks. And if you were really just trying to help me out with that one liner you previously posted you need to also take some classes on attitude :]. Just because your behind a computer screen typing doesn't make it right to be rude,, even to people who ask stupid questions whether I did or not. I'm not here to argue so please leave the bickering to someone else.

[David Nahmani]

Hey Clinton!

 

I would say the absolute best way to prepare is to produce music. The more you produce, the more you have questions coming up, and you can write them down and bring them with you in class. Someone who comes to my classes but has never produced any music before will get those questions pop up after the class, when it's more challenging to get them answered.

 

I know you've produced some music already, keep at it, produce more, and write down your questions.

 

See you in class!

[clintoncole]

Hey Clinton!

 

I would say the absolute best way to prepare is to produce music. The more you produce, the more you have questions coming up, and you can write them down and bring them with you in class. Someone who comes to my classes but has never produced any music before will get those questions pop up after the class, when it's more challenging to get them answered.

 

I know you've produced some music already, keep at it, produce more, and write down your questions.

 

See you in class!

 

yaaaay I'm sososos excited I just got my oil spill check today and so yea, you're seeing my in january for both classes for SURE.. Any suggestions on getting a place to stay for 3 weeks? as well as transportation I have plenty of money but still want the cheapest! I'm thinking of posting on craigslist and trying to make a friend before I go down there to stay with ahahhaa

[David Nahmani]

I had a student come from Taiwan once, and she stayed at the following place:

 

http://franklinhouse.org/

 

It's literally a 5mn walk from our classroom.

[clintoncole]

that's not bad at all! I'm gonna look in to it later on

[triplets]

Music theory it is, thanks. And if you were really just trying to help me out with that one liner you previously posted you need to also take some classes on attitude :]. Just because your behind a computer screen typing doesn't make it right to be rude,, even to people who ask stupid questions whether I did or not. I'm not here to argue so please leave the bickering to someone else.

 

Clinton, relax buddy!

Who's arguing, who's bickering? Who said anything about stupid questions? Classes on attitude?

Why are you getting instantly so defensive?

 

I just gave you an honest answer based on what you said.

 

Maybe my initial answer was too short?

 

Like David said, you need to produce some more music. Know how music works as a mixture of different instruments, dynamics and rhythms. Why this and that does or doesn't work.

Analyze the music of your favorite artists and composers. Break it down to its components. What do the drums do, bass, synths, what chords are those , what notes are they playing.

You gotta increase your musical vocabulary.

Sometimes things might sound wrong or right, why? It takes some time.

I see you're thrilled to take the courses. I was too.

And like David said, a lot of questions pop up after the courses. That's perfectly normal. That's how you learn.

 

Have fun in LA!

[clintoncole]

Music theory it is, thanks. And if you were really just trying to help me out with that one liner you previously posted you need to also take some classes on attitude :]. Just because your behind a computer screen typing doesn't make it right to be rude,, even to people who ask stupid questions whether I did or not. I'm not here to argue so please leave the bickering to someone else.

 

Clinton, relax buddy!

Who's arguing, who's bickering? Who said anything about stupid questions? Classes on attitude?

Why are you getting instantly so defensive?

 

I just gave you an honest answer based on what you said.

 

Maybe my initial answer was too short?

 

Like David said, you need to produce some more music. Know how music works as a mixture of different instruments, dynamics and rhythms. Why this and that does or doesn't work.

Analyze the music of your favorite artists and composers. Break it down to its components. What do the drums do, bass, synths, what chords are those , what notes are they playing.

You gotta increase your musical vocabulary.

Sometimes things might sound wrong or right, why? It takes some time.

I see you're thrilled to take the courses. I was too.

And like David said, a lot of questions pop up after the courses. That's perfectly normal. That's how you learn.

 

Have fun in LA!

 

lol i don't think I'm the one that needs to relax, I'm suuper excited if only you knew all the things that happened to me today, it's just people like you w/ cocky attitudes over the internet.. You may have just given me some good advice but with a cocky attitude, I'd rather you just not help me at all .

[triplets]

Was I too harsh? Poor thing...

Now you resort to calling names. Grow up.

[shivermetimbers]

I can almost hear David now...

 

"Alright [insert name], your nose was on time but you were fifteen minutes late."

[clintoncole]

Was I too harsh? Poor thing...

Now you resort to calling names. Grow up.

 

lol you're stillll in my thread? telling me "grow up" sounds like something my 7 year old niece would say ;p

[ski]

Nice bit of bickering going on here.

 

You guys know I just jumped in with no knowledge of music and I want to get 100% out of the class that it has to offer. I have his two books he wrote but do I need to know music history, or anything for things to make sense in the class?

 

Your enthusiasm is great, but... it's like you want to be a motorcross champion though you don't even know how to ride a motorcycle. Or, maybe you can ride (albeit you're a bit wobbly) but you don't know what any of the parts are called, or where the gas tank is.

 

See?

 

Forget about music history. If you want to get 100% out of the class you need to have a much broader knowledge about making music than I believe you currently have. I've followed your posts, so I think I have a good idea of where you're at. Remember your thread on quantizing? You couldn't even explain what kind of rhythm you were playing, yet you wanted help on how to quantize it. See?

 

So to your question: you want to get 100% out of the class? Do your homework first. And that means easily 6 months to a year of study to learn some fundamental concepts. Use some of that BP money to take lessons, etc...

[clintoncole]

Nice bit of bickering going on here.

 

You guys know I just jumped in with no knowledge of music and I want to get 100% out of the class that it has to offer. I have his two books he wrote but do I need to know music history, or anything for things to make sense in the class?

 

Your enthusiasm is great, but... it's like you want to be a motorcross champion though you don't even know how to ride a motorcycle. Or, maybe you can ride (albeit you're a bit wobbly) but you don't know what any of the parts are called, or where the gas tank is.

 

See?

 

Forget about music history. If you want to get 100% out of the class you need to have a much broader knowledge about making music than I believe you currently have. I've followed your posts, so I think I have a good idea of where you're at. Remember your thread on quantizing? You couldn't even explain what kind of rhythm you were playing, yet you wanted help on how to quantize it. See?

 

So to your question: you want to get 100% out of the class? Do your homework first. And that means easily 6 months to a year of study to learn some fundamental concepts. Use some of that BP money to take lessons, etc...

 

Aww so I shouldn't take the classes until 6 months ish? :/

[redlogic]

I agree with ski and triplets.

 

I know you're pumped to take the class, but I think you'd get a lot more out of it with a little more 'homework" under your belt.

 

Really just basic stuff like:

the difference between whole, half, quarter, eight and sixteenth notes

what a triplet is and the different kinds (quarter, eight, etc)

what makes a major chord different from a minor chord

harmony

 

Logic is a tool made of many tools.

The class will teach you how to use the tools.

 

Music is made of different parts.

Rhythm

Notes

Rests

Chords

Melody

Harmony

 

I think you would benefit from the Logic classes even more with a good basic grip on the musical end of things.

 

Good luck and have fun.

[ScottB601]

So anyway........back to the original question.

Try this one: Logic Pro 9 Power!: The Comprehensive Guide by Anker and Merton. I read the Logic 8 version and it is absolutely excellent. I've read David's books too and they're great as well.