OtherJesus Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Does anyone have any experience with a Axiom Pro and the Hyper Control? When I first got this midi controller and installed the Hyper Control, I set it up with Logic and it was working great. Now, for no reason I can pin point, the Hyper Control isn't working. The piano keys and drum pads still respond, but the faders, knobs, all they Hyper Control stuff are just bonkers. I've tried going under Preferences and Resetting midi drivers, but it doesn't seem to help the issue. I wish I had more info, but I honestly don't know what to say. One day it was working fine and the next day it's complete bonkers. The LCD screen just shows 8 "blank knobs" and none of the F buttons, number buttons seem to respond or do anything. I'd appreciate any help, feed back or pointing in the right direction. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intensemojo Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Reset the Axiom Pro Make sure Logic is in 32-bit mode Make sure you turn the Axiom first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor99 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 sflogicninja is supposed to be posting a vid tutorial via his day gig @ Pyramind devoted to the Axiom Pro.. tweeted him re: same and still waiting to hear something.. the vid has been shot etc and just needs to be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherJesus Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Thanks for the advice, but I did a factory reset and it didn't work. Grrrrr. I wonder what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well...I think I've got something for you: I've had the same problem & spent a loooooot of time trying to understand why sometimes when I open or create a project, HyperControl is acting weird. Sometimes it worked like supposed, & sometimes, the LCD display & button lights were not displaying what they should. So I re-installed everything, searched for hours, & found nothing until....I tried to check if the problem is "template-related"...& yes (!!!!!) for me it was that. When I load a template, HyperControl wont work properly, & when i DON'T, hypercontrol works!!!!! Tell me if that solves the problem for you too. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor99 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I tried to check if the problem is "template-related"...& yes (!!!!!) for me it was that. When I load a template, HyperControl wont work properly, & when i DON'T, hypercontrol works!!!!! is that a template as in a Logic Project Template or an Axiom Pro HyperControl template (or whatever M-Audio calls it)? I'm guessing you're referring to a Logic Project Template.. and if that's the case then I'm wondering if it's as simple as creating your own Logic templates with HyperControl incorporated into them so you can call them up when needed and HyperControl will be a built in part of it from the get go.. for me if you cannot use HyperControl within the context of a Logic template then that's too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm wondering if it's as simple as creating your own Logic templates with HyperControl incorporated into them so you can call them up when needed and HyperControl will be a built in part of it from the get go I don't understand what you mean by "building HyperControl into a template"? HyperControl should just work all the time, on all projects, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor99 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 since I don't have the Axiom Pro I'm just guessing about the specifics of what @alexalex said.. M-Audio states you have to have the Axiom Pro control surface setup in your Logic Pro Preferences so forth and so on.. to my understanding these type of parameters should NOT be a template specific setting.. but maybe I'm wrong.. hopefully @alexalex can shed some more light on his discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trebor99 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 to all you Axiom Pro users.. here's a very new "HyperControl Logic Personality" software update that may help: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1131 hope that helps for some of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 to my understanding these type of parameters should NOT be a template specific setting You're right, they are not. Preferences (including control surface assignments) affect your entire Logic systems and all the projects you open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hey there. Sorry I came late to this party. I'm hooking up the new Hypercontrol right now to see if it behaves. I have an older MCU as well, so I'm very curious to see if they've really fixed this. I've been sitting on a tutorial until they had the 64bit thing worked out. BRB~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBen79 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Have you tried going into Logic preferences/control surfaces/setup/clicked the axiom under devices to see if hypercontrol is on the in and out in this menu hard to explain sorry and i havent got my axiom anymore it broke but i have a picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBen79 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Normally there would be the Axiom under devices click on that and you should see what i mean there is some drop down menus which display the in and out hypercontrol sometimes mine would stop working i would come here and have to reselect them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well, I've rebooted, installed and uninstalled and installed again.. It doesn't seem to be working for me. I'm going to install HyperControl on my laptop as well to see if it works there. In that case, it may be that I misplaced a folder when I was uninstalling it months ago. I'll notify you if I get it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sorry to hear about your problems sfln - I installed that latest version of HyperControl, worked flawlessly right away here. Maybe I'm just lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I'm sure you're totally not just lucky. I'm fairly certain I must have moved an important install location in haste to get my Logic control working properly. After the 9.1.2 update, my control surfaces started acting normal again... I'm hoping it will work on the laptop, I'll find the install location, and make sure that that location is available on my tower. That's what I get for hastily digging through my OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Yup. as I thought... It works perfectly on the laptop. I'll have to get the folder hierarchy fixed on the tower. Looking good, otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well, looks like permissions issues! For those who need to know, the profile is in Library->Application support-> MIDI Device Plug-ins For some reason, that folder was locked to me... I've upgraded so many times that I think when I transferred my mac brain to the octacore - some permissions got funky I assure you this was my fault. Carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentc Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Looking forward to that video, David. It must be terribly uncomfortable to be sitting on that tut all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sflogicninja Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Something about that phrase sounds amusing. Yeah, I'm happy to see that I can use this thing as described again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Ok! I'm testing AxiomPro61 with Logic HyperControl personality version 1.0.2-2, Logic 9.1.3 (64bits), os 10.6.5. for now : faders ok fader buttons ok flib button ok encoders knobs ok transport ok first bug : when I select ins (inserts) from soft key, I dont get the slot number at the bottom left, even if I turn E1 (the knob to select the slot). So I don't know on witch slot I will load (with the load soft key) the plugin I'm selecting with the E3 encoder. That used to work 100% with Logic HyperControl personality version 1_0-4 (the one before this one) & Logic at 32 bits. second bug : sometimes, on "big sessions", when I'm at the "home page", I play with the sliders to control some track volumes or/and I play with the knob encoders to play with the tracks pan. Normally, after 3 seconds, the LCD screen is supposed to return to that default home page (with the list of 8 tracks). Well sometimes it doesn't. I't stays on the page where all 8 encoders are graphically displayed (if i just played with a pan) or I't stays on the page where all the faders are graphically displayed (if i just played with them). Now, this bug doesn't occur with small sessions (i've tested with a new 19 (random number) mono track only). But with bigger sessions, using 3rd party plugins like 3-4 Altiverb, 2 Trilian ,10-15 waves, etc. (around 1Go of RAM used by Logic according to Activity Monitor), I get this bug. third bug : sometimes (i don't know why sometime it does & sometimes it doesn't), when i'm in the ins (insert) page & I try loading a plugin or I try selecting a plugin using E1 and E3, the display switches on the page with the 9 sliders. I don't understand why this page is displayed...The previous version ( Logic HyperControl personality version 1_0-4) didn't do that. fourth bug : SOMETIMES (meaning not always), when I create a new track with no plugin (I tested with a new mono audio track), I go to the ins (inserts) page with my softkey#2. I'm now on the INSERT page. I Choose a plugin to load with my E3 knob. I then press the LOAD softkey#3 to load it, but it doesn's load & I get a weird graphical bug on my display, like a superposition of the Insert page & the page on wich I see all 9 sliders. That's it for now... It seems that the "insert" part of this new 64-bits personality for Logic 9 has a couple of problems. Do you guys have any of these problems? btw sorry for my poor english, it's not my first language (I'm from Montreal) Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherJesus Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 to all you Axiom Pro users.. here's a very new "HyperControl Logic Personality" software update that may help: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1131 hope that helps for some of the problems. I can't believe this lol. It says the release date for this "personality driver" was January 7, 2011. I just went to install it but a warning popped up telling me that I couldn't install it because a newer version was already installed on my computer. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k. bright Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 to all you Axiom Pro users.. here's a very new "HyperControl Logic Personality" software update that may help: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1131 hope that helps for some of the problems. I can't believe this lol. It says the release date for this "personality driver" was January 7, 2011. I just went to install it but a warning popped up telling me that I couldn't install it because a newer version was already installed on my computer. WTF? Yeah, same thing happened to me. Does anyone magically know if this update is just to support 64 bit (which I'm not using) or does it improve other things as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 you can use it in 32bits. But it has the same bugs (that I described). If you want to use hypercontrol in 32 bits I suggest the personality just before that one. I never had that pop-up & I've intalled & uninstalled version 1.0.2-2 at least 10 times. weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33tetragammon Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 to all you Axiom Pro users.. here's a very new "HyperControl Logic Personality" software update that may help: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1131 hope that helps for some of the problems. I can't believe this lol. It says the release date for this "personality driver" was January 7, 2011. I just went to install it but a warning popped up telling me that I couldn't install it because a newer version was already installed on my computer. WTF? there is an uninstaller in the same download,try running that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33tetragammon Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ok! I'm testing AxiomPro61 with Logic HyperControl personality version 1.0.2-2, Logic 9.1.3 (64bits), os 10.6.5. first bug : when I select ins (inserts) from soft key, I dont get the slot number at the bottom left, even if I turn E1 (the knob to select the slot). So I don't know on witch slot I will load (with the load soft key) the plugin I'm selecting with the E3 encoder. That used to work 100% with Logic HyperControl personality version 1_0-4 (the one before this one) & Logic at 32 bits. Alex yes,i have the same problem here,doesn't show the insert numbers here anymore.i didn't check the rest though. i went back to the previous version until this is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRPS Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 works perfectly fine over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexalex Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 works perfectly fine over here Are you in 64 bits or 32 bits?? Are you using Logic 9.1.3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oconnorstp Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm brand new to the Axiom Pro -- just hooking it up today. Came across this thread and thought I'd share what's working for me. I'm on a Mac, running Logic in 32 bit mode (can't remember why). Problem 1 -- No Axiom Pro control-surface choice in Logic's Preferences menu Solution for me -- I changed the permissions on the folder where the Axiom HyperControl files had been installed. For some reason the installer left that folder locked to the world. So I gave myself access (using Get Info on the folder, clicking the little unlock button at the lower right of the window, giving read and write permissions to myself/administrators, and applying those permissions to the contents of the folder). Note -- when I reinstalled the software, I had to repeat this step because the installer overwrote the folder. So if the folder's locked, unlock it. The files are located in /Library/Application Support/MIDI Device Plugins/Axiom Pro bundle That got me to the point where I could see an Axiom Pro listed in the Logic preferences window and could select it. But that still left me with a pretty-much horked up Axiom. So here's... Problem Number 2 -- The Axiom only vaguely communicated with Logic and the behavior in no way resembled the way it was supposed to work, especially the HyperControl stuff. Solution for me -- I used Audio Midi setup to configure the Axiom. Up until then the computer was just treating it like a generic class-device and missing out on all the good HyperControl stuff. Here's the mapping I used (from the Quick Start Guide): Note: make sure the Axiom is connected/turned-on so the computer can see it. Doesn't matter whether Logic is running or not. Input ports (little upward-pointing arrows on the Axiom) Axiom port 1 -- Axiom Pro USB A In Axiom port 2 -- Axiom Pro HyperControl In Axiom port 3 -- Axiom Pro MIDI In Axiom port 4 -- Axiom Pro USB B In Output ports (little downward-pointing arrows -- there are only two of these) Axiom port 1 -- Axiom Pro MIDI Out Axiom port 2 -- Axiom Pro HyperControl Out Steps -- click "add device" 6 times so you've got six new boxes, name those six new boxes using the names on the right side of my list (eg. "Axiom Pro USB A In"), drag lines between the arrows to connect the inputs to inputs and the outputs to outputs. Works fine now -- sliders, rotors, all that stuff. I haven't tested all the features yet 'cause it's lunch time and us geezers need our little lunch. But I think I've got it licked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonia Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Also had a problem with Hypercontrol this morning, Just tried some of the suggestions but in the end just deleting the Axiom from Control Surfaces and then installing it again (by clicking scan) sorted it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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