grg1540 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 whats a good q swing setting for lets say a live played midi piano track so that it keeps its live feel but moves the midi notes just a bit closer to the chosen note.IE: 8th or 16th note. thanks. g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 If it sounds good as is,why bother? If you had midi files of some of the world's greatest players you'd see all sorts of unrigid behaviour. Depends what you're trying to do,and what the player is doing. Is he playing 16s a lot,or 8s? Or do you want to beat map it so it fits the grid and sounds the same? More info needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 From your description, you don't want to touch Q-swing (which would create a swing groove), but Q-strength (in your advanced quantize parameters), which determines how close to the grid you're quantizing (for exmple if Q-strength is 50% then your notes move halfway between their original position and the grid). The number you choose for Q-strength depends on how close you want your notes to the grid vs to their original positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Must pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 You might also been interested in the Q-range settings if you want to keep feel. When using these, the manual recommends using a 1/4 note Quantize setting. The idea is to define an area of "allowable slop" in your playing. Try this one out and see if it works: Quantize: 1/4 Q Strength: 70 % Q-Range: 1/48 Play around with the Q-Range setting, somewhere in the 1/192 to the 1/48 range and of course season to taste with the Q strength parameter. Essentially, Q-Range is defining the width of your slop zone, in either a positive or negative area around the quarter note. The larger the positive Q-Range value, the more mistakes you are roping in. But on the negative end, the Q-range values do the opposite - the larger the value, the more it leaves notes untouched because it is defining the width, around the quarter note, where notes are not being quantized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grg1540 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 i am always happy to receive the info i seek from those who choose to share it. David, has been invaluable in my learning experience as well as many others have. Always helpful with facts and in a way that is never opinionated about the way i need or choose to make music. I wish all others would keep opinions to themselves. It's facts, knowledge and understanding about LOGIC PRO 9 that i seek. The best teachers give tools to create. Not tell HOW to create. Wipe on, Wipe off. Thanks to all. g nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I wish all others would keep opinions to themselves. Thanks to all. g nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I wish all others would keep opinions to themselves. Thanks to all. g nyc Indeed: Why so rude, dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 I wish all others would keep opinions to themselves. Thanks to all. g nyc Indeed: Why so rude, dude? This is a public forum by the way, if you ask for help your generally going to get a few different opinions on how things could be done. Thats the beauty of making music, there's no one right way…just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Tsk tsk... By venting yet another opinion you are also disregarding the OP's explicit wishes... these kind of imperatives do tend to backfire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grg1540 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 point well taken. g nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 It's also nice to know if any particular bit of advice worked. Or even, "tried that but this is what I ended up doing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grg1540 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 will do camillo. just getting to work on the file right now. g nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grg1540 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Share Posted February 13, 2011 thanks to david and camillo's detailed suggestions, it really enabled me to very easily quantize the whole midi piano track in under a minute. yes the piano player is a good player but having this effortless control of his feel in the track without being bound by final quantization is so emancipating. i started with camillo's suggestions below, Quantize: 1/4 Q Strength: 70 % Q-Range: 1/48 and took it from there. once i knew how to approach this, finding what i was looking for musically was effortless. thanks again. g nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 By process of elimination,then, I must have been the one voicing unwanted opinions. I will refrain entirely in future,since my 'opinion' is obviously worthless. Even when I don't express it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Beer Moth, I hope you don't extend that to the rest of the forum, I believe your opinions, musical and otherwise (not to mention a canny knack for the art of punning) are valued in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Thanks,man! Couldn't find the 'Like' button... I'm getting my tabs confused,I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinMan Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Some good tips for that Q-Strength thang here. I've got a drummer I'm gonna be trying that "CAMILLO FORMULA" on I think. Mr. Moth? BEWARE THE FLAME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 You might even call them "Q-tips." arf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Shouldn't that be Quamillo Jr then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Shouldn't that be Quamillo Jr then? But.. what ... does that make of you then? Queer Moth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 You T$@(^g F$t! That's a bit uncalled for! Beer Quoth would have been a little more McSceptible! Gsus4! I think I need to smile... ..but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Gsus4! hahahahaha!!! J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 So why the sad fizz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 So why the sad fizz? Laughing so hard that tears came out of my I's... J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 Shouldn't that be Quamillo Jr then? I'd have no qualms about that. Not even a semi-quaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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