Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 So I played out some chords in logic, for a beat I'm working on, but I used a software instrument preset (warm glow chords) that automatically plays a chord when you hit one key. However I want to know which chords I'm playing i.e. all the exact notes in each chord. I've included a draft version of the beat so you can hear the chords for those of you that want to help. http://hulkshare.com/9lsfi3m0surm I'm assuming this is going to take someone who plays piano, knows there chords, or has a great ear. I need to crack this code! Or Chords in this case. Any and all help is much appreciated. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Which keys did you press to make the chords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Which keys did you press to make the chords? In order as they are played in the song D# Bb or A# Ab or G# B, B, B, B I was going to include this in the original post but wasn't sure if it was relevant since the chords seem to change with respect to the keys as you change the octave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I might be wrong but to me they sound like a major & minor in the same octave, then a major & minor in a higher octave Zone 1 Major Zone 3 minor Zone 2 Major Zone 4 minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 I might be wrong but to me they sound like a major & minor in the same octave, then a major & minor in a higher octave Zone 1 Major Zone 3 minor Zone 2 Major Zone 4 minor layman's terms/notes? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 In it's most simplest form. Major - start with the root note then including that note count up 5 keys, then including that note count up 4 keys minor - same as above but move the middle note 1 key to the left. Example: B = B,D#,F# Bm = B,D,F# I'm sure you can work out the rest from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 In it's most simplest form. Major - start with the root note then including that note count up 5 keys, then including that note count up 4 keys minor - same as above but move the middle note 1 key to the left. Example: B = B,D#,F# Bm = B,D,F# I'm sure you can work out the rest from there I've got a pretty good grip on basic Chords R-4-3 - Major R-3-4 - Minor Etc.... Are you saying that those are the first two Chords in my progression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I've got a pretty good grip on basic Chords Ah right, I thought you didn't know how to find your chords Are you saying that those are the first two Chords in my progression? No, your first chord is either an E flat or an E flat minor depending where on the keyboard you played it. The sample map of Warm Glow Chords shows: Zone 1: up to B0 Zone 2: C1 - B1 Zone 3: C2 - B2 Zone 4: C3 & above So if your first note was D#2 then it would be an E flat minor & so on from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) I've got a pretty good grip on basic Chords Ah right, I thought you didn't know how to find your chords Are you saying that those are the first two Chords in my progression? No, your first chord is either an E flat or an E flat minor depending where on the keyboard you played it. The sample map of Warm Glow Chords shows: Zone 1: up to B0 Zone 2: C1 - B1 Zone 3: C2 - B2 Zone 4: C3 & above So if your first note was D#2 then it would be an E flat minor & so on from there. I dont know why its not letting me keep all my edits in one post lol Edited March 12, 2011 by Wavves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) I've got a pretty good grip on basic Chords Ah right, I thought you didn't know how to find your chords Are you saying that those are the first two Chords in my progression? No, your first chord is either an E flat or an E flat minor depending where on the keyboard you played it. The sample map of Warm Glow Chords shows: Zone 1: up to B0 Zone 2: C1 - B1 Zone 3: C2 - B2 Zone 4: C3 & above So if your first note was D#2 then it would be an E flat minor & so on from there. Are you guessing my first chords is either e flat or e flat minor because you have a good ear or because its laid out like this in the sample map? Edited March 12, 2011 by Wavves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 I've got a pretty good grip on basic Chords Ah right, I thought you didn't know how to find your chords Are you saying that those are the first two Chords in my progression? No, your first chord is either an E flat or an E flat minor depending where on the keyboard you played it. The sample map of Warm Glow Chords shows: Zone 1: up to B0 Zone 2: C1 - B1 Zone 3: C2 - B2 Zone 4: C3 & above So if your first note was D#2 then it would be an E flat minor & so on from there. what exactly does the sample map do and where can I find it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Are you guessing my first chords is either e flat or e flat minor because you have a good ear or because its laid out like this in the sample map? Both, however, I've not listened to your snippet mate, I've loaded up Warm Glow Pads in EXS24 & went from there what exactly does the sample map do and where can I find it? The sample map is exactly what it says on the tin - a map of all the samples in the instrument, you can find it by clicking the "Edit" button at the top right of the EXS panel. Once the Edit page is open select "Zones" then you can see which sample is where & how the instrument deals with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 Are you guessing my first chords is either e flat or e flat minor because you have a good ear or because its laid out like this in the sample map? Both, however, I've not listened to your snippet mate, I've loaded up Warm Glow Pads in EXS24 & went from there what exactly does the sample map do and where can I find it? The sample map is exactly what it says on the tin - a map of all the samples in the instrument, you can find it by clicking the "Edit" button at the top right of the EXS panel. Once the Edit page is open select "Zones" then you can see which sample is where & how the instrument deals with it. Ok I noticed in using the sample map that it does not show you the exact chord you played, but the key you hit to play the chord. Someone else suggested a different chord for the first chord that sounds a lot closer to the one in the song than the Eb or Eb minor....If you have a good ear then listen to it! And crack the lid on this thing! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 First one is a Eb∆7sus4. All chords are the same: Eb∆7 sus 4 | Bb∆7 sus 4 | Ab∆7 sus 4 | B∆7 sus 4. The voicing is. I, III, IV, VII. All within the same octave. Apply this to the first chord and the tones are: Eb, G, Ab & D I think you can figure out the rest! /E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 First one is a Eb∆7sus4. All chords are the same: Eb∆7 sus 4 | Bb∆7 sus 4 | Ab∆7 sus 4 | B∆7 sus 4. The voicing is. I, III, IV, VII. All within the same octave. Apply this to the first chord and the tones are: Eb, G, Ab & D I think you can figure out the rest! /E Appreciate the response what's with the triangles? What does sus 4. mean? How do you know this for sure? Did you play out the chords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Appreciate the response what's with the triangles? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_seventh_chord What does sus 4. mean? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sus4 How do you know this for sure? Did you play out the chords? I didn't but it sounds familiar. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsanct Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Eric, That's weird. I'm hearing it as: Db Maj 7 Ab Maj 7 Gb Maj 7 A Maj 7 Isn't the upper voice: c-g-f-ab? I fear my ears are going bad with age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsanct Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Oh yeah — so others can "check my work", the notes in each chord (bottom to top) would be: 1. Db-F-Ab-C 2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I hear Major Seventh chords with the 9th on the bass. Like Orsanct's analysis: 1. Db-F-Ab-C2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# ...but with the ninth on the bass for each. Reminds me of John Coltrane's "Naima". J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Oh yeah — so others can "check my work", the notes in each chord (bottom to top) would be: 1. Db-F-Ab-C 2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# Haha... You are almost right! I tried it on the piano And I was wrong. It's: Eb Bb Ab B but it is 6 sus4 So your top notes are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Oh yeah — so others can "check my work", the notes in each chord (bottom to top) would be: 1. Db-F-Ab-C 2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# Thanks gonna give these a try. Did you play these out yourself or is this an ear guess as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 I hear Major Seventh chords with the 9th on the bass.Like Orsanct's analysis: 1. Db-F-Ab-C2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# ...but with the ninth on the bass for each. Reminds me of John Coltrane's "Naima". J. Thanks someone else mentioned a 9th by 9th on the bass you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsanct Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Aha, I see. I'm listening on my iPad speakers — no bass! I'll have to listen with headphones when I get home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Eric, That's weird. I'm hearing it as: Db Maj 7 Ab Maj 7 Gb Maj 7 A Maj 7 Isn't the upper voice: c-g-f-ab? I fear my ears are going bad with age. Appreciating all the help what do you mean when you say upper voice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Eric, That's weird. I'm hearing it as: Db Maj 7 Ab Maj 7 Gb Maj 7 A Maj 7 Isn't the upper voice: c-g-f-ab? I fear my ears are going bad with age. Appreciating all the help what do you mean when you say upper voice? the tone on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsanct Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Wavves: I just mean the top note of each chord — one after the other - as if it were the "voice" of a sung melody, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Oh yeah — so others can "check my work", the notes in each chord (bottom to top) would be: 1. Db-F-Ab-C 2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# Haha... You are almost right! I tried it on the piano And I was wrong. It's: Eb Bb Ab B but it is 6 sus4 So your top notes are right. Are you saying this is the first chord? (Eb Bb Ab B) and everything else is correct? I understand the concept of a sus 4 now, but what is a 6 sus4 lol? What do you mean when you say top notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavves Posted March 13, 2011 Author Share Posted March 13, 2011 Wavves: I just mean the top note of each chord — one after the other - as if it were the "voice" of a sung melody, that's all. Ah I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 I hear Major Seventh chords with the 9th on the bass.Like Orsanct's analysis: 1. Db-F-Ab-C2. Ab-C-Eb-G 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F 4. A-C#-E-G# ...but with the ninth on the bass for each. Reminds me of John Coltrane's "Naima". J. You nailed it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orsanct Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 So, to help out Wavves in the least technical way, might we tell him that the chords are: 1. Db-F-Ab-C /with Eb in the bass 2. Ab-C-Eb-G /with Bb in the bass 3. Gb-Bb-Db-F /with Ab in the bass 4. A-C#-E-G# /with B in the bass And Wavves: a 9th is a fancy way of saying the note above the "root" of the chord. We could get into a discussion of why it's called a "9th" but I'm not sure that really matters. Now, go make some great music! And thanks for pitching in everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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