HMayoral Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Heya fella's I've been doing my best to work around this, but I just thought I'd report it: Mkay, when I'm working with the ES2, I've noticed that when I put i t in mono, and add voices in unison, the moment I touch the analog of the ES2, the preset changes for good and I can't undo the change and work with the original sound I had before I touched the analog. I can lower the analog all the way down but I can't undo the change the sound undergoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 What if you select another patch and select the old patch again? Doesn't it simply revert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMayoral Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Not sure I understand you, but I guess what you mean is save the sound before I eve touch the Analog, and then if I don't like how it sounds with analog, I revert. I imagine it would work but I want to know if other people are experiencing this as well to know if this is a bug. It would mean the world to me if that didn't happen. Again, I'm not sure if it's even a bug, maybe it's just that I'm not altering something, it's just really annoying for me, since I tend to experiment a lot with the ES2 I re:read your post, let me just clarify this. I meant that, let´s say I open the ES2 and start from a sinusoide waye and just experiment and get a cool sound... Then I wonder how it would sound with analog, now the moment I touch the analog (I think it´s strictly with unison) it changes the sound permanently. I can´t undo that change for some reason (that´s why I think it might be a programming bug) and your method does seem useful, saving the experimental sound before altering the analog, but it´s still a problematic issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I don't have that issue here, until someone else can reproduce it I'm moving this out of the "Bugs" forum. Anyone else can reproduce this? HMayoral, can you give exact steps to reproduce? Does it happen even in a brand new, "Empty Project" template? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMayoral Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Sure, here´s what I do: 1. Open project (I tried it with a new project, same thing happens) 2. Open a software instrument track 3. Open ES2 4. I personally have an ¨empty¨ preset to start from scratch, I load that up. All oscillators are turned off on my setting, so turn any on 5. You won´t be able to hear much with the sinusoide so switch the wave to square 6. switch it to mono and put in unison (though I think it happens with poly or legato also) 7. turn up the analog to any setting, though the more analog the more the sound is affected, I´ve noticed. 8. Play a note with the analog up. Then switch the analog back to zero and you´ll notice the sound will be very different Does the analog switch turn something on and I´m not turning it off or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMayoral Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Still no luck? No one´s been able to re-create this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I'll give it a shot later tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 No, I'm afraid I can't reproduce. When I turn Analog back to zero, it sounds the same as before I turned it up. Maybe if you uploaded your project here with your personal custom ES2 setting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I've just tried it with your instructions & I can't reproduce it here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
involver Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Perhaps this is to do with oscillator phase? Does it still happen if you set osc start to 'soft' for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
involver Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Also, is unison mode on by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 The OP says to "put in Unison" in step 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
involver Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 This is the phase realtionship of the oscillators. Essentially, each unison voice is 'free-running' until the 'analog' control is set to zero, at which point they are all triggered from the same point in relation to each other. You can alter this point by increasing the 'analog' control and then putting it back to zero. This is just a side effect of the way the ES2 is designed. Probably not the best explanation but hopefully you will understand One possible solution is the used the Osc start control set to 'hard' or 'soft' to ensure the oscillator phase relationship is always the same. However, this has its own effect on the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMayoral Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yessir. Involver nailed it. Now I kinda know what that option up there is for. Thanks! Though it doesn´t alway necessarily fix the problem or what not. I´ll ahve to keep expliring with this lil thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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