born_hard Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Hi, this is from the manual: To move a region selection with its automation data Drag across the region with the Marquee tool. Use the local Arrange menu Edit > Copy command. Select the track you want to copy the automation data to. Move the playhead to the insertion point. Use the local Arrange menu Edit > Paste command. The region selection, along with its automation data, is copied to the target track at the playhead position. This doesnt work at all. After i paste the region, there is a copy somewhere in the track (but not at the playhead position) and the automation data was not copied. Need help. Thanks Aron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Try Option - Drag instead of the copy commands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
born_hard Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 copy drag doesnt work. If somebody can describe step by step, i appreciate.. Aron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Aron, are you trying to copy/move the region at a different location on the same track? Or onto another track? Either way the step-by-step description given to you by the manual should give you the results you want, what results do you get? PS: Make sure under Preferences > Automation, "Move Automation with Regions" is set to Always or Ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Go to Preferences>Automation>Move Automation with Regions Set it to Ask or Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Go to Preferences>Automation>Move Automation with Regions Set it to Ask or Always. Just as I was editing my post. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I must say... I followed that procedure from the manual (the one posted by the OP) and the result was....junk. In 9.1.3 J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I must say... I followed that procedure from the manual (the one posted by the OP) and the result was....junk. In 9.1.3 J. With correct Automation preference settings? On the same track or another track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 With correct Automation preference settings? On the same track or another track? Doesn't work here either (with correct Automation pref settings). Any way, if the Preferences are set as mentioned above there is no need for a Marquee selection. Just select the Region with the Pointer tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 With correct Automation preference settings? On the same track or another track? I have it set to "Always"...always The procedure is for copying a portion of a region, including automation, to another track. This is what the OP didn't include in his post, from the manual: You can also move part of a region with its automation data, using the Marquee tool. To move a region selection with its automation data J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The procedure is for copying a portion of a region, including automation, to another track. So is that referring to RBA or TBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Any way, if the Preferences are set as mentioned above there is no need for a Marquee selection. Just select the Region with the Pointer tool. But that doesn't copy a portion of the region, which is where the marquee would come in. Could be useful in some situations....maybe J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I must say... I followed that procedure from the manual (the one posted by the OP) and the result was....junk. In 9.1.3 J. With correct Automation preference settings? On the same track or another track? Doesn't work here either (with correct Automation pref settings). That's what I was seeing. But it works when using the marquee followed by an option drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 So is that referring to RBA or TBA? It's in the TBA section . J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 But it works when using the marquee followed by an option drag. That's good enough for me. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 But that doesn't copy a portion of the region, which is where the marquee would come in. Could be useful in some situations....maybe So that must mean that the OP is looking at the wrong part of the manual for what he wants to do because the subject is Move A Region With its Automation Data (not a portion). Perhaps this is where the confusion is coming from. I still cant get it to work like the manual says it should (for moving a portion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Doesn't work here either (with correct Automation pref settings). That's what I was seeing. But it works when using the marquee followed by an option drag. Indeed it does. Guess it's a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 because the subject is Move A Region With its Automation Data (not a portion). Perhaps this is where the confusion is coming from. But the manual starts by making you believe that... You can also move part of a region with its automation data, using the Marquee tool. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Your confusing me Scott! because the subject is Move A Region With its Automation Data (not a portion). I still cant get it to work like the manual says it should (for moving a portion). Confused J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 But the manual starts by making you believe that... You can also move part of a region with its automation data, using the Marquee tool. Yes. The key word there is part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Your confusing me Scott! because the subject is Move A Region With its Automation Data (not a portion). I still cant get it to work like the manual says it should (for moving a portion). Confused J. Now I'm getting confused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Indeed it does. Guess it's a bug? I would say that it is. And it is not the first time Logic behaves strangely when using copy and paste. I have grown accustomed to using option - drag for copying 'cause it always works as expected. The problem is people coming from PT or Qbase are used too the command - c, command - v thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The procedure is for copying a portion of a region, including automation, to another track. This is what the OP didn't include in his post, from the manual: You can also move part of a region with its automation data, using the Marquee tool. To move a region selection with its automation data J. Oh I missed that, thanks Jordito. And you're right, that doesn't work. It cuts my region, and moves my marquee selection to the playhead position on the track where my region is (even though I have another track selected). It doesn't move any of the regions, nor their automation. It just cuts the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Jackson Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 And you're right, that doesn't work. It cuts my region, and moves my marquee selection to the playhead position on the track where my region is (even though I have another track selected). It doesn't move any of the regions, nor their automation. It just cuts the region. Exactly what is happening here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Yes. That's exactly what happens (memory's coming back, tried it this morning). I agree with everything Eric said in his last post. Somehow Logic freaks out with copy/pasting and prefers that you option-drag stuff around. Except maybe for the Paste At Original Position command, which seems to always work well (in my experience). Maybe that has something to do with it...as soon as you make logic copy/paste stuff to a new position in the timeline...disastrous things are bound to happen. Keep it at the same position and Logic goes..."Ok, I can handle that". Anyway...some random thoughts. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It cuts my region, and moves my marquee selection to the playhead position on the track where my region is (even though I have another track selected). It doesn't move any of the regions, nor their automation. It just cuts the region. And it moves the playhead to the selection end... If Overlap drag mode is enabled it'll make a copy at the original position instead of cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
born_hard Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Allright, Was my mistake: Make sure under Preferences > Automation, "Move Automation with Regions" is set to Always or Ask. Onto the same track: I tried to copy with marque onto the same track with option drag and it works fine. i can copy the region OR a part of that region now. All of the automation data will be copied, too. Onto another track: With the pointer tool i can copy the whole region with the automation data onto another track. But with marque , then copy paste it doesnt work at all. With margue and optin drag onto another track it works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfchords Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 hi there... I like keeping the idea of 'Ask' setting, but in practice it becomes unusable, as I use audio a lot and hitting a confirm msg box slows me down considerably. Keeping it on auto move, means that often I may overwrite detailed automation while shifting things around, only to realize 20 edits later that something is gone. So... it would be great to control this with a modifier key.. say option, control or one of those jammies... when I move a region, no automation goes with it, unless I hold the key. And, since 1 out of every 2 modifier drag commands fails anyway cause its awkward to do for some reason, or maybe it's my Mac keyboard dying, it would be cool to have a little indicator light somewhere, so I can look at it to know if its being pressed. Or I suppose the icon can change, in the same way the plus icon shows when copying a region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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