camillo jr Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Every now and then I'll write a tune using only Logic sounds and this is one of those. It's got an old movie vibe to it. I had fun writing this... it began as a pizzicato tune but then I kept adding stuff to it. Logic's Orchestral sounds are not as lush as my EWQLSO orchestra but it's an interesting challenge to see what I can wring out of them. Thanks to ski for some great tips on humanizing these sounds! At least half of these use the mod wheel for volume, sample xfading and sometimes a bit of filter. Any comments appreciated.... thanks. Wafarer's Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Awesome. Incredible programming! And the music is beautiful as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm impressed of how you've managed to make it feel organic! Meticulous work and a beautiful tune. I like it. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I haven't listened yet, but I'd like to add that from what I heard Camillo write as a participant in my Logic Film Scoring class, he is one very expressive and talented guy. =sKi= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yep, you squeezed the life out of the Logic samples alright! Very nice! J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 Wow, thanks for the kudos guys, I really appreciate it. And I just noticed that I spelled Wayfarers "wafarers". So it's really a tune about traveling wafer salesmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widdershins Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Absolutely fantastic stuff, shows how in skilled hands, even less-than-perfect tools can be used to do something excellent. This should be required listening for those whose first question after buying Logic is: "which plugins should I buy?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruari Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Excellent stuff Camillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rone2him Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Kodos! Great listening... concur with all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookatthisguy Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Simply amazing. Given that all I've got so far is Logic's sounds (what can I say, I hate spending money), it sounds like I've got a lot of studying to do, especially some issues I had on a track I posted a while back that needed some good work on the expressiveness and realism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaGhost Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Whoa, I don't even know where to begin? What makes this sound so good? Reverb? Automation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Whoa, I don't even know where to begin? What makes this sound so good? Reverb? Automation? I tell ya, it's the mod wheel! That really is the thing that makes these sounds behave more like real players. The image I've posted here shows the kind of settings that I'd use on any of the strings, winds or brass. I even used that on one of the pizz sounds because it was easier to ramp the volume that way then to rely on keyboard velocity (which I would have to go into and edit anyway to correct the hot notes and so on.) One thing ski showed was to to have mod wheel control over relative volume rather than just the volume setting. Combine that with sample crossfading and Pow - mucho expressivo. And for a few sounds I might also have mod controlled filter. Another thing ski mentioned was that even if you've got an orch sound in some library that has a swell built into it, that swell is often not going to match the phrasing of what you're writing. So in this tune you can hear, for instance, swells on the Timpani and snare drum rolls - again, those are mod wheel generated. The way I set these up was so that the middle position of the mod wheel was roughly home base so that I'd have something to back off from or get louder from. Again, thanks for the kind words from everyone here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookatthisguy Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Whoa, I don't even know where to begin? What makes this sound so good? Reverb? Automation? I tell ya, it's the mod wheel! That really is the thing that makes these sounds behave more like real players. The image I've posted here shows the kind of settings that I'd use on any of the strings, winds or brass. I even used that on one of the pizz sounds because it was easier to ramp the volume that way then to rely on keyboard velocity (which I would have to go into and edit anyway to correct the hot notes and so on.) One thing ski showed was to to have mod wheel control over relative volume rather than just the volume setting. Combine that with sample crossfading and Pow - mucho expressivo. And for a few sounds I might also have mod controlled filter. Another thing ski mentioned was that even if you've got an orch sound in some library that has a swell built into it, that swell is often not going to match the phrasing of what you're writing. So in this tune you can hear, for instance, swells on the Timpani and snare drum rolls - again, those are mod wheel generated. The way I set these up was so that the middle position of the mod wheel was roughly home base so that I'd have something to back off from or get louder from. Again, thanks for the kind words from everyone here! It's times like this I wish I could crawl back into my shell, just write the music in Finale and pray for a budget to get it recorded. Like I said, I've got a lot of studying to do. Thanks for those tips camillo… hopefully I'll be able to try them out pretty soon here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMD Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Wow! This is truly amazing camillo jr. As someone already pointed out, it's amazing what can be done with less than perfect tools in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthArchRising Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 this is amazing, more so for the writing but really insightful use of Logic's built in sounds. would love to hear this using your 'best' library of sounds too. really well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosUnderground Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Wonderful on all fronts. Kudos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyreww Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Very nice track indeed - well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juha-pekka kuusela Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 SOunds really amazing and really suprise these logic sounds can be sounds this good. looks i must practice now more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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