Joey89 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Is there anyway to get rid of the hiss at the start of the track? I think its on the guitar track, would that be down to the mics? any ideas? heres the song- http://soundcloud.com/joe-spencer/frrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 You think it's on the guitar track... OK, if you're not sure then how can any of us be? Listen to your individual tracks (i.e., solo them). That'll tell you where the hiss is. Or maybe it's cumulative between a bunch of tracks. Or maybe it's not coming from Logic at all. Need to know how you made that recording, etc........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey89 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sorry i don't know why i said i think, i know it is as thats the only track at the start of song. When you solo the guitar you can hear the hiss on it through out but when in the mix you cant hear it at all, apart from the start. Is there any tool on logic you can use to maybe soften the hiss? I recorded the guitar with a condenser mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logicno8 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Sorry i don't know why i said i think, i know it is as thats the only track at the start of song. When you solo the guitar you can hear the hiss on it through out but when in the mix you cant hear it at all, apart from the start. Is there any tool on logic you can use to maybe soften the hiss? I recorded the guitar with a condenser mic. You can use EQ to precisely find where the hiss is strongest and than attenuate it or even better use the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I hear the hiss throughout the entire song, even when the playing is continuous and with vocals. You can even hear a snippet of the noise at the very very end. Either the noise is coming from one or more of your tracks, or, perhaps... maybe... (I guess I'm about to ask a question) did you process your song through some outboard gear and record that as your final mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey89 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 I hear the hiss throughout the entire song, even when the playing is continuous and with vocals. You can even hear a snippet of the noise at the very very end. Either the noise is coming from one or more of your tracks, or, perhaps... maybe... (I guess I'm about to ask a question) did you process your song through some outboard gear and record that as your final mix? you can? The condenser mic went through my lexicon outboard and then into the mac, do you think i had the mic up to high on the outboard when recording. I can hear the hiss the whole way through when i put the volume up really loud and listen out for it. Do you think its quite distracting? If i hadn't said to listen for it do you think you would notice. I sort of know how to EQ but what is a gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey89 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 I just soloed everything and the hiss is only on the guitar tracks, does this mean i recorded them with the mics to high up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 It can mean one of several things... For one, it could be that you didn't set the gain staging quite properly during recording, resulting in a lower signal to noise ratio. Or it could be that the preamp you were using (if indeed you were) was just noisy to begin with. One thing you could try is to use the linear phase EQ on those tracks to try and shelve off the high end. But it's give-and-take with that... first, that EQ is a latency-inducing plugin, so make sure that your plugin delay compensation (PDC) is set accordingly (audio prefs). Second, by rolling off the highs you may end up losing some of the character of the guitar. I think it's worth a shot though. Another possibility is to process your guitar tracks in Soundtrack Pro, using some of its noise reduction capabilities. I've never used STP myself, but I've read numerous posts from people saying that the noise reduction is actually quite good at removing hiss and other kinds of problems. Please post back and let us know how you make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey89 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 It can mean one of several things... For one, it could be that you didn't set the gain staging quite properly during recording, resulting in a lower signal to noise ratio. Or it could be that the preamp you were using (if indeed you were) was just noisy to begin with. One thing you could try is to use the linear phase EQ on those tracks to try and shelve off the high end. But it's give-and-take with that... first, that EQ is a latency-inducing plugin, so make sure that your plugin delay compensation (PDC) is set accordingly (audio prefs). Second, by rolling off the highs you may end up losing some of the character of the guitar. I think it's worth a shot though. Another possibility is to process your guitar tracks in Soundtrack Pro, using some of its noise reduction capabilities. I've never used STP myself, but I've read numerous posts from people saying that the noise reduction is actually quite good at removing hiss and other kinds of problems. Please post back and let us know how you make out. Thanks very much for the help. I took your advice and use a latency EQ and i think its soften it quite well. This was the result - http://soundcloud.com/joe-spencer/lets-move-to-france Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlogic Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks very much for the help. I took your advice and use a latency EQ and i think its soften it quite well. This was the result - http://soundcloud.com/joe-spencer/lets-move-to-france The guitars sound a little dark now. I think you may have overdone it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mustache Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I would give the soundtrack pro method a go (it will be a good learning experience) I have used it in the past and it has generally worked well. It also lets you dial in the amount of noise reduction so you can find a happy medium between hiss and a track that is to dark. Edit: I like the song and honestly think a little hiss is par for the course with this style. I have listened to tracks by Bon Iver and Iron and Wine where the hiss is even more pronounced but it just kind of sounds right for the song. Listen to Iron and Wines cover of “Such Great Heights” for an example. The hiss in your song did not detract from my listening experience. In this day and age when everything is perfectly timed, pitched corrected and maximized a little hiss and hearing the players chair creak can be refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiephoire Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I've had to do this before. The essence is you drag the guitar track in to STP, go to the waveform editor (I think by double clicking on it), and then highlight a portion of the track that just has the noise; then [process -> set noise print], and then highlight everything and [process -> reduce noise]. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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