melodea Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hi, I just noticed the following behavior of L9: I have to bounce all tracks from a session to be imported to another program. When bouncing, especially the tracks (MIDI) witch are from Ultrabeat, the resulting (bounced ) tracks are noticeably softer and slightly panned to one side. Has anyone encountered that problem? I think the bounced track should be EXACTLY the same as the source track. melodea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 When bouncing... How did you bounce? What settings did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melodea Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 I'm using bounce all tracks and replace in the Arrange window. It happens also if I'm bouncing only 1 track (Ultrabeat) in the Arrange window. Here are the settings and a pic of the level difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 You didn't answer that part: What settings did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melodea Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Just added the pics. It's in german though! I didn't normalize just "only clipping protection" (don't know if it's called like that.. There are no plugs and all the levels and pannings are on 0 (dB). It seems to be happening only with software synth tracks. the audio tracks seem to bounce ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I didn't normalize just "only clipping protection" (don't know if it's called like that That's a form of normalization. If having it on results in lower levels, that means that the signal is clipping before it reaches the first plug-in (in your case). You have 3 choices: • You turn the signal down manually (in the plug-in itself) • You use normalization for clipping protection as you did, and you'll get a lower signal • You turn off normalization and have a clipped audio file I would recommend the first or the second option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melodea Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanx man, I just found it out myself! Turn off normalization all together and it works or use one of your solutions mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanx man, I just found it out myself! Turn off normalization all together and it works Keep in mind your signal is clipped (distorted). You may not hear it, but it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melodea Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Ok, thanx. So you think it's always better to bounce with clip protection on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Ok, thanx. So you think it's always better to bounce with clip protection on? I prefer my first solution, which is to avoid distorting the output of my instrument. Your levels in Ultrabeat are too high. By keeping a handle on my levels I never have to use clip protection or any other form of normalization, and I know precisely what level to expect when bouncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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