Unable to route aux signal to bus successfully [SOLVED]

[JCJ]

Hi,

I'm working on an EastWest orchestral template. I am setting up an instance of the East West plugin, assigning instruments to midi channels and linking the different stereo outputs from the Virtual Instrument to Aux's. The aux's are reading the signal from the virtual instrument fine. An example of an aux would be Play 3-4 / Stereo Out.

 

My issue is that I want to introduce reverb and I can't seem to get the routing right. If I select B 1-2 on a send in an Aux channel it creates a stereo aux labelled Bus 1-2 with stereo out. If I place a reverb on that channel it appears to double the volume. The more Aux's I send to that reverb, the louder it gets.

 

The same thing applies if I send the aux straight to the reverb instead of the stereo outs.

 

If you have some advice/ideas about how to route aux to aux/bus for the purposes of reverb or other effects I'd be really grateful.

 

I'm using a Mac Quad 2 X 2.66 dual with 9GB RAM. Logic 9 and OSX 10.6.8

 

Many thanks in advance

 

Jake

[David Nahmani]

Any particular reason you're not using Universal Track Mode? I would strongly recommend you do. You can select it under Preferences > Audio.

 

Also, what pan law are you using? (Under Settings > Audio)

[JCJ]

Thanks for getting back to me and apologies for delay in reply.

 

The Pan law is -3db compensated and the Apply pan law box is not checked.

 

I had stopped using universal track mode as the stereo didn't feel as true as if I used non universal with tracks panned hard left and right. I sense that you may ba about to solve that issue for me.

 

Thanks again and I hope to hear back.

 

Jake

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

That's because the "pan" knob on a stereo channel is in fact a balance knob. Use the Directional Mixer plug-in if you want true panning.

 

As long as you're using mono channels and pan law is identical there's no difference between the two modes.

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

The Pan law is -3db compensated and the Apply pan law box is not checked.

Then it's not in effect. Pan law is not a Preference, but a Project Setting, i.e. it's tied to the specific arrangement you're working on.

[JCJ]

Many thanks, I'll have a look at this and try and implement asap.

 

Best,

 

Jake

[JCJ]

Actually, just to clarify. What did you mean when you said as long as Pan Law is identical?

 

Lets assume i set up a project using the universal track setting. I totally understand that the pan is a balance adjuster in that scenario. What should the project setting be for Pan Law?

 

Thanks again,

 

J

[Holger Lagerfeldt]

That's up to you, but I like the default -3 dB compensated setting in Logic.

 

The important thing to understand is, that there's no difference in the sound itself. It's a workflow issue that relates to whether you want to re-adjust your levels or not while panning.

 

Switching off Universal Track Mode doesn't make much sense to me unless you're using Logic as a front for Pro Tools HD hardware.

 

So enable UTM and choose the pan law that suits your preference, which -3 dB compensated apparently doesn't.

[David Nahmani]

+1 on everything lagerfelt just said:

 

1) Enable UTM.

2) Set your pan law to - 3 dB compensated, unless you have a good reason to select another one. I explained pan laws in more details there: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=271616#271616

 

The question is, does that solve your original problem?

[JCJ]

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for your suggestions. I have implemented them and yes, they have resolved the issue completely.

 

I'm now re-building in Universal Mode with -3db compensated.

 

Many thanks again.

 

Jake

[David Nahmani]

You're welcome!