iaresee Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'm a guitar player in a Duran Duran tribute. We're spreading the work load out a bit and trying to get everyone involved in creating backing tracks. I pulled All You Need is Now. It's been an easy go except for one sound: that lead sound Nick uses. Sort of a pivotal sound in the track and it's eluding me. You can hear it here: I'd be very grateful if anyone could help steer me in the right direction. My synth skills are mostly find-a-preset, twiddle-knobs-until-it-fits type skills. This patch sounds almost detuned to me. But I can't find a good patch to start from in the Logic library... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosUnderground Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Check out the G6 Bass on this forum. I use it on high registers with some inserts an its pritey close. Maybe detunning one oscillator will get you there. I'll give it a shot and get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 This might be "all you need". The way I've got it set up is that you play the pitch bend effects via after-touch by rhythmically leaning into the key. At first I thought it might be an LFO or pitch envelope creating the effect but he's got such a specific pattern going there that it sounded to me more like it was being played in. Alternatively, you can disable the aftertouch control and use the pitch wheel to play the pitch effects. To turn that slot off, click on the b/p button in the upper right of the sixth modulation slot, which should turn it orange. Then use the pitch wheel instead. Put the PST file in user > Library > Logic > Plug-ins > ES2 > sub folder of your choice. All You Need_Camillo.pst.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaresee Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 This might be "all you need". The way I've got it set up is that you play the pitch bend effects via after-touch by rhythmically leaning into the key. At first I thought it might be an LFO or pitch envelope creating the effect but he's got such a specific pattern going there that it sounded to me more like it was being played in. Alternatively, you can disable the aftertouch control and use the pitch wheel to play the pitch effects. To turn that slot off, click on the b/p button in the upper right of the sixth modulation slot, which should turn it orange. Then use the pitch wheel instead. Put the PST file in user > Library > Logic > Plug-ins > ES2 > sub folder of your choice. The aftertouch is perfect. I think you nailed that. The sound is very close. But it suffers from the same thing my own attempts suffer from: it's too nice. Too smooth. Not gritty enough. I'm not even sure of the right words to describe what's missing...I want to say the recording has a more granular texture to it. Does that make sense? The recording has that almost-bit-reduced-sample nastiness to it. But this is an awesome base. I can work with this. Thanks so much! Edit: thinking about this, I think maybe I'm expecting too much from the synth? I probably need to look at creating this sound as a combination of synth + channel strip plugins. I think you've given me an excellent base for this approach. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 You're welcome! Yep, in some ways the ES2 is a thin sound synth. But adding some plugs like Logic's Bit Crusher maybe along with Compressor with soft saturation turned on (under disclosure triangle) might make it sound less cocktail and more rave. You could also try and boosting some of the mids with some pointy EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6smith Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Just as an aside, here's an article with Nick talking about his rigs for "All you need now"... http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/duran-duran/5584 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA6 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hi guys I've been wanting the same AYNIN sound for our tribute band. I managed to pretty much nail it with my Fantom X6 and a little tweaking. I modified the User Preset #027 Nu RnB SAW 1 to achieve the sound by adding a small forward and back looped snippet of the actual sound to an additional oscillator. The default scratching sound of the patch beefed up the sample and helped mask the loop a bit. If you guys are interested I can upload a couple of long notes to Soundcloud so you can use it in the Logic Sampler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncer Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 You're welcome! Yep, in some ways the ES2 is a thin sound synth. But adding some plugs like Logic's Bit Crusher maybe along with Compressor with soft saturation turned on (under disclosure triangle) might make it sound less cocktail and more rave. You could also try and boosting some of the mids with some pointy EQ. camillo jr is da man....!!! i just was playing this patch with effects added, got the whole rave groove going very close recreation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA6 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Just found this that might of use to a lot of you looking for the sound to sample!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyA6 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Hi folks, I uploaded the sound I made up to Soundcloud so you can hear what I came up with. Long note included if you want to sample it yourself. File is downloadable too. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 File is downloadable too. Can you please attach it to this thread so people don't have to visit another website to download it? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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