emperor12 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I am working on mixing/mastering a song that someone sent me and I would LOVE to be able to just click a button and have it disable all insert fx that I have added. Then I could a-b between the before and after...I am surprised that Logic does not have this option...or does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I am working on mixing/mastering a song that someone sent me and I would LOVE to be able to just click a button and have it disable all insert fx that I have added. Then I could a-b between the before and after...I am surprised that Logic does not have this option...or does it? It does ... Sort of. Create a Sysex button set up in the Environment and cable it to the channel strips. It has been presented many times in this forum (for free!!!). It is easier than it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Here's my version - no sysex needed: Bypass Channel Strip Setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 And while David's suggestion works, it IS a workaround, so how about us all (once again) send dear Apple some feedback, let's request 'Bypass all plugins of the channel (and remember which ones were possibly already bypassed, and keep them that way when clicking again)' feature! http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 And while David's suggestion works, it IS a workaround, so how about us all (once again) send dear Apple some feedback, let's request 'Bypass all plugins of the channel (and remember which ones were possibly already bypassed, and keep them that way when clicking again)' feature! http://www.apple.com/feedback/logicpro.html .... what is the difference between a 'work-a-round' and a working application that a user builds in the Environment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Uh, the zillion old projects that need to be revisited here and there and that need to be manually "patched", or at least copied and pasted into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Uh, the zillion old projects that need to be revisited here and there and that need to be manually "patched", or at least copied and pasted into. So if you build (or buy) this remarkable feature and it is incorporated into your working template for every project, is it still a 'work-a-round?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperor12 Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Sounds pretty complex for me haha. I honestly don't go into the environment much anymore. It would be nice to have a little button though in a future version to 'disable plugins' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Uh, the zillion old projects that need to be revisited here and there and that need to be manually "patched", or at least copied and pasted into. So if you build (or buy) this remarkable feature and it is incorporated into your working template for every project, is it still a 'work-a-round?' FWIW I agree with Darude. My button is nothing but a workaround, you still need to patch it manually into the desired channel strips etc. A built-in CSS bypass button (option-clicking the CSS button would work) per channel strip, plus a global "bypass all processing plug-ins" button would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Uh, the zillion old projects that need to be revisited here and there and that need to be manually "patched", or at least copied and pasted into. So if you build (or buy) this remarkable feature and it is incorporated into your working template for every project, is it still a 'work-a-round?' FWIW I agree with Darude. My button is nothing but a workaround, you still need to patch it manually into the desired channel strips etc. A built-in CSS bypass button (option-clicking the CSS button would work) per channel strip, plus a global "bypass all processing plug-ins" button would be nice. Agreed. However (for the record), there are a few people who have already successfully made a fully functional Environment that will save and recall all mixer settings. So I guess the rest of the world will have to wait for this long overdue feature. http://www.modernanalyst.com/Portals/0/Public%20Uploads/Fin94s-hell-freezes-over-business-analyst.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Just because you ask Apple to have the feature included in future versions doesn't mean you can't use workarounds in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Guys, I apologize if I offended someone, that was not my intention. I don't understand why my feature request feedback suggestion does anything bad to anything or anybody. Like I said (and kudos to David and anyone else with a working workaround), I'm not interested in manually patching every freaking channel strip of every freaking project I've got in the "actives" folder on my work drive, and the potential re-visits I do to my finished projects. IMO there should be a built-in, no-patching-needed, Bypass all -button on every channel, configurable with some options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 There's a lot of things Logic should have but doesn't. Amazing already what it does. Patience, Logic Padawan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I am working on mixing/mastering a song that someone sent me and I would LOVE to be able to just click a button and have it disable all insert fx that I have added. Then I could a-b between the before and after...I am surprised that Logic does not have this option...or does it? A workaround for this purpose would be to pipe the track to two busses, build the mastering chain on one, leave the other one empty. Then option-click the solo button of the bus you want to hear. Remember to level-match (temporarily, push the master up in the end for the final bounce), so you'll hear the processing difference and are not fooled by the level difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibt Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 ... I'm not interested in manually patching every freaking channel strip of every freaking project I've got in the "actives" folder on my work drive, and the potential re-visits I do to my finished projects... Don't forget about storing assignments into Logic's Controller Assignments... they work across all your projects, are easy to set up, but your options are limited compared to what an Environment patch let's you do. Mightn't be exactly what you're after in this case, but worth illustrating : Using the Capslock keyboard here, but you could use a button on your midi controller etc., with Value>Mode set to Toggle. Different modes can be set up to store audio, auxiliary, instrument (etc.) channel strip assignments, separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 ... I'm not interested in manually patching every freaking channel strip of every freaking project. You don't have to. A simple solution would be click the grey area of the floating window, Command+A (select all), Control + S (cable serially), and then click on the bypass button to compare. After you have compared and want to make changes, you will need to uncable. If everything is still selected, simply do a Control+delete to uncable everything. Now you can make changes to whatever. http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/taxidriver0069/Dancing80x100.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 You don't have to. Shive', you're answering to the question raised by the OP, but that's not what Darude was asking: let's request 'Bypass all plugins of the channel (and remember which ones were possibly already bypassed, and keep them that way when clicking again)' feature!l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 vs. 9.1.6. or 10.0.0 with built-in Bypass button (B) that would do the same thing per track or globally (based on preferences and/or assigned key commands) One can dream, right? Thanks ShiverMeTimbers and everyone else for your input, and I hope OP got something out of this, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 It has all been done. Here is a primitive look at how fun it can get. As much as I hate to do this, you can purchase your dreams as if you went to "Rekall." One forum member is selling something similar. Here is a link to it if you want to look. http://whydopeopleyawn.com/wp-content/uploads/Why-Do-People-Yawn.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darude Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 1: "Hey, look, this car has only 2 doors, wouldn't it be cool if it had 4, so it'd be easier to go to/from the backseat? I'm going to write a letter to the manufacturer to suggest that, wanna write one, too?" 2: "Naah, you can just take a chainsaw and make a hole yourself on the side of the car, that'll work as well!" 1: "Yeah, but I thought it would be good to inform the manufacturer, wouldn't it be nice to have a factory-built nice feature readily available?" 2: "Naah, it's unnecessary to go forward, you should just keep those crazy ideas to yourself and pay extra to someone else and tinker with stuff that take your precious time and effort from the actual things you could be doing!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 1: "Hey, look, this car has only 2 doors, wouldn't it be cool if it had 4, so it'd be easier to go to/from the backseat? I'm going to write a letter to the manufacturer to suggest that, wanna write one, too?" 2: "Naah, you can just take a chainsaw and make a hole yourself on the side of the car, that'll work as well!" 1: "Yeah, but I thought it would be good to inform the manufacturer, wouldn't it be nice to have a factory-built nice feature readily available?" 2: "Naah, it's unnecessary to go forward, you should just keep those crazy ideas to yourself and pay extra to someone else and tinker with stuff that take your precious time and effort from the actual things you could be doing!" That sums it up rather nicely. Shive', we never said it couldn't be done, or it hadn't been done. We said it would be nice if the feature was implemented in Logic, with a simple button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sure does http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/mba/lowres/mban835l.jpg I understand. The world is full of people who want. It takes less than a minute to set up a SYSEX button which is nothing compared to the time it to complain that Logic needs a magic button. I don't know if the Logic team ever hired a new Environment guy so I wouldn't hold my breath. Then again, it may be in the next version or sold as an app, who knows? I don't know why anyone needs a compare button anyway. How bad does a song have to be to cause a person to fill up 15 insert slots with effects on every channel strip? Why would you need a button to remind you of ... Hold on, there is someone at the door ... brb. Sorry, it was the neighbors complaining about my rant and they told me to stop or else. So with that, I will push the simple Command Q buttons and end my time on the net for tonight. Tomorrow is another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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