claesbjo Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Well, I must say I´m really happy with this update. Seems that the dreaded 3rd party au clicks and pops problem is gone..havent run into yet anyway. Bouncing speed is INCREDIBLE Automation seems to behave much better. It feels really stable now, which is all I want. No desperate need for Logic X here, this stuff is solid. KNOCK ON WOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Well that's refreshing! Thanks for sharing your positive first impressions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhitesides Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 While I've only downloaded it today and done a cursory bit of working with it. So far I'm not seeing any problems with 9.1.6 either. I can't say that I'm seeing a speed increase in offline bouncing but I do see it using multiple cores. Which may give a perceived feeling of faster bouncing. But I don't have hard data to back that up. I'm still waiting on WAVES and UAD to go 64 bit before I take the plunge of Lion. UAD announced they're going 64 bit - though left that only to 2012, I'm hoping it's earlier than later. Anyone heard about WAVES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rone2him Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Uploaded LP 9.1.6 yesterday, had to update to OSX 10.6.8 too, otherwise all went smoothly (once I found the download)... Opened up some older projects with no problems, cores seem to be running nicely, all 3rd party plugins running perfectly well... Seems okey-dokey to me, very glad to have another upgrade to LP 9.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBPlayer Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Only one minor thing I have found so far with 9.1.6 update. The "zoom handles" are missing from the scroll bars Otherwise all is good Cheers TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claesbjo Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Only one minor thing I have found so far with 9.1.6 update. The "zoom handles" are missing from the scroll bars Otherwise all is good Cheers TB how odd! mine are still in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6smith Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Yes.. I noticed the missing 'handles' too... Odd thing to leave out? I think this is a Lion 'thing' as on my SL setup they are still there but on my Lion setup they are gone... Edited December 9, 2011 by n6smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Mine are still there (32-bit, 10.6.8 ) Is it a Lion thing? Both of you guys with *missing* handles are running Lion - whereas the rest of us are on 10.6.8. I'm guessing this is default Lion scroll-bar behaviour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6smith Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Touché Monsieur Beej...... What's odd/different is that they were present with Lion and 9.1.5... or at least I believe they were.. I don't recall missing them like I do now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah, it's probably part of the general Lion tweaks they've been doing in 9.1.6... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBPlayer Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Just checked and the "handles" were definitely there in 9.1.5 with Lion. Very odd indeed Had a look on my Macbook Pro running OS 10.6.8 with Logic 9.1.6 and the "handles" are there! Gotta be a "Lion" thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekknovator Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 They want you to trackpad Edit: But the little zoom sliders bottom right are still there. So all is not lost for mousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andyreww Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Mine are still there (32-bit, 10.6.8 ) Is it a Lion thing? Both of you guys with *missing* handles are running Lion - whereas the rest of us are on 10.6.8. I'm guessing this is default Lion scroll-bar behaviour... Same here - Handles are there...10.6.8 too 9.1.6 appears very stable - no issues seen as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger Lagerfeldt Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 There's no need for the handles. You can zoom using: Ctrl+Option+arrow keys (gives you full control over vertical and horizontal zooming) Ctrl+Option+mouse scroll up/down (zooms both vertically and horizontally at the same time) Ctrl+Option+select an area (zooms an area you've selected with the mouse, simply click to zoom back) Z key for zooming out to see the full arrangement (toggle) Select regions + Z key to zoom a selection of regions There are two more ways which are very similar to the Z key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhaze Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Still no fix for the vanished menu option "delete item" when control clicking in the arrange toolbar. I am on Lion 10.7.2., Running logic 9.1.6 under 64 bit. Yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyreww Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ctrl+Option+mouse scroll up/down (zooms both vertically and horizontally at the same time) One of the best workflow techniques I use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Maybe Apple expects you to "pinch zoom" on Lion? I'll admit I'm not very interested in using this technique with Logic though. Logic is usually a bit slow to zoom in the arrange window since it has to draw a new level of detail, so I doubt it would respond very smoothly to pinching. My main zooming method is with the arrow buttons on Logic Control, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n6smith Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Actually Pinch Zoom works just fine... For me it's no different to the Ctrl+Option+mouse scroll up/down method... so your doubts are misplaced! Seriously though.. The 'slowness' will, of course, be dependent on your hardware (maybe in particular your graphics card as well as your CPU..) and what it is capable of handling, load wise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rumblist Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ctrl+Option+mouse scroll up/down (zooms both vertically and horizontally at the same time) One of the best workflow techniques I use... I didn't know this zoom technique and got to say thank you! That's so handy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ctrl+Option+mouse scroll up/down (zooms both vertically and horizontally at the same time) One of the best workflow techniques I use... I didn't know this zoom technique and got to say thank you! That's so handy! Didn't know it either. And it works to zoom selections which is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBPlayer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I use a trackpad and I'd forgotten all about the "Pinch Zoom" feature Actually Pinch Zoom works just fine... +1 here too Maybe Apple expects you to "pinch zoom" on Lion? . . . . . . . . . Logic is usually a bit slow to zoom in the arrange window since it has to draw a new level of detail, so I doubt it would respond very smoothly to pinching. I find it to be fast and smooth here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhitesides Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I opened my mouth too soon... Bounces are f*cked up. Both Realtime and Offline bounces are now producing horrible results. Son of a bitch. Where playback is perfectly fine, the moment I do a bounce I get all kinds of problems with clicks, pops, and weird compressions. This blows. Where's that link for 9.1.5 again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 People. Please make valid backups of your system *before* updating important software. Things are usually fine, but if you do this you are covered in the event that something unexpected happens. All you have to do is copy your previous Logic application before updating - that's it. Then you still have it available if you want to go back. I'd also recommending archiving your downloads of each version, so you always have the download available locally should you need it. This should be standard operating procedure. And before anyone goes "I shouldn't have to think about this stuff, Apple should just do it for me", then I understand the reasoning, but you really should imo take some responsibility for the smooth running of your system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBPlayer Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) People. Please make valid backups of your system *before* updating important software. Things are usually fine, but if you do this you are covered in the event that something unexpected happens. All you have to do is copy your previous Logic application before updating - that's it. Then you still have it available if you want to go back. I'd also recommending archiving your downloads of each version, so you always have the download available locally should you need it. This should be standard operating procedure. And before anyone goes "I shouldn't have to think about this stuff, Apple should just do it for me", then I understand the reasoning, but you really should imo take some responsibility for the smooth running of your system... +1 Edited December 10, 2011 by TBPlayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Where's that link for 9.1.5 again? Apple replaced it with 9.1.6, so there's no way to get 9.1.5 anymore I'm afraid. Beej described the safe way to upgrade software - for next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claesbjo Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Dont you think that the magnifier glass is the quickest way of zooming? I love that, cant imagine using anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Dont you think that the magnifier glass is the quickest way of zooming? I love that, cant imagine using anything else I use that a LOT myself. Control-Option-drag. I like the Z key to quickly zoom onto whatever I select, too. Or to quickly show me my entire arrangement when nothing is selected. Control-Option-arrows when I need to zoom in just a bit vertically or horizontally only and I'm too lazy to go grab the mouse which is aaaaaalll the way to the right of my keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ah, the myriad ways of zooming in Logic... I mostly use command and the cursor arrows to zoom in/out horizontally and vertically, but I also make use of the three storable zoom snapshots, usually having by default 1 set to a wide arrange view, 2 a medium one, and 3 a really hyper zoomed in view, and I'll switch between these a fair bit, also saving updated positions as I'm working depending on the task at hand - I have three adjacent function keys to recall, and add shift to save each one. Using the zoom handles on the window scroll bars is probably the slowest and least efficient way to zoom, imo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrixx Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I've assigned my right mouse button to Control+Option+Click in the mouse preference for the Logic Application and it makes Magnifying awesome.. Right mouse button and lassooooo !! Makes navigation so quick and as I have most things set to custom key commands, I don't tend to use the right click menus at all. If I do, I just Control + Left Mouse button.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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