Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 So, every in application except Logic, stereo behaves as expected? Is it just while recording in Logic that stereo is screwy, or playback as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch117 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Stereo behaves properly in every other application. Is it just while recording in Logic that stereo is screwy, or playback as well? The stereo is messing up in Logic during playback. I believe everything is fine when recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd change the title of your thread to include "SaffireMix", in the hopes that you'll attract someone who knows the software. I'm even more certain that's where the problem lies now. Sorry I couldn't help more, but at least I think we've narrowed the problem down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Red and White wired connect into the back of the interface in the Output 1 slot. The yellow wire connects the right speaker to the left speaker. Do you still think that getting a different cable will help me out here? Yes, because your current cabling is wrong. To get a stereo signal you need to use TWO outputs from your audio interface: Output 1 has your left channel Output 2 has your right channel Right now you're only monitoring the left channel, so when you pan something to the right, you're simply lowering your left channel volume - that's normal and expected, that's the way panning works. The only thing is that you should also be monitoring your right channel, and that would give you the expected panning behavior where you'd hear your sound move toward the right speaker. So you need to get a proper audio cable with TWO 1/4" jacks on one end and two RCA plugs on the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Whoa, nice one David, I missed that post. But how does mitch get proper stereo in other applications? Wasn't he using SPDIF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 But how does mitch get proper stereo in other applications? He's not getting proper stereo in any applications, he's just probably not panning anything in his other apps, and therefore hasn't noticed that he is only listening to the left channel. Wasn't he using SPDIF? No, he's using a single mono analog output, output 1. There's no way you can get a stereo signal from a single mono output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boafzilla Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 [...] he's using a single mono analog output, output 1. Wow, nice catch. I can't believe I missed this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Wasn't he using SPDIF? No, he's using a single mono analog output, output 1. There's no way you can get a stereo signal from a single mono output. Oops, missed that one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 [...] he's using a single mono analog output, output 1. Wow, nice catch. I can't believe I missed this. Yer funny. My monitors are connected through the Output 1 Line on the back of the Saffire Pro. It sounds like you may have routed your mix to a single mono output... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch117 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I see what you're saying, the only thing is, this issue just started happening. I've had my speakers set up like this for six months and before I was able to pan to the left and right just fine. Since this issue is happening with both my MIDI controller and any microphones I use I've deducted that it has to be my Logic software. Perhaps if I uninstall then reinstall the problem will work itself out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yer funny. Ya, but I didn't look at that picture of his output, or register that he only had one output channel going to his monitors. When he said "output 1", I presumed that was both channels. Doh/duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I see what you're saying, the only thing is, this issue just started happening. I've had my speakers set up like this for six months and before I was able to pan to the left and right just fine. I don't know what to tell you other than you must be mistaken: it's impossible to pan things on one channel. Panning is the relative adjustment of the volume of two channels, so by definition you cannot pan a single channel. Since this issue is happening with both my MIDI controller and any microphones I use I've deducted that it has to be my Logic software. Perhaps if I uninstall then reinstall the problem will work itself out? No. Please trust me: I am 100% sure that I am right on this one. Right now you use a single mono output, the left channel. You are not monitoring your right channel. My guess is, you have a stereo jack plugged into output 1, which means both your speakers play the same signal: the left channel of the stereo signal Logic outputs. And the behavior you're describing (panning = lowering volume) also means you're only listening to a single channel, not two. You need a cable with two mono 1/4" inch jacks to connect to your two mono outputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivermetimbers Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yer funny. Ya, but I didn't look at that picture of his output, or register that he only had one output channel going to his monitors. When he said "output 1", I presumed that was both channels. Doh/duh That was for "boafzilla" who really caught it straight out the gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ah. I see. I should've read back through all the posts. Or I should stop replying to posts at 4am. One or the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch117 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm not understanding what kind of cable I need. Help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch117 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 If I get a new cable I'm going to need it to go into both the right and left RCA units in the back of the speaker and then 2 mono 1/4" jacks? Do they even make those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 You need a 1/4" jack for outputs 1 and 2, to RCA plugs in your monitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If I get a new cable I'm going to need it to go into both the right and left RCA units in the back of the speaker and then 2 mono 1/4" jacks? Do they even make those? Yes, and yes. Here's an example: http://www.markertek.com/Cables/Audio-Cables/1-4in-Phone-to-RCA-Cables/Hosa-Technology-Inc/CPR-202.xhtml Cabling: • 1/4" jack White ↔ Output 1 on your audio interface. • 1/4" jack Red ↔ Output 2 on your audio interface. • RCA White ↔ "L" connector on your speaker • RCA Red ↔ "R" connector on your speaker. Note that some cables use black instead of white for the left channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boafzilla Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Beat me to it, David. Yer funny. I plead sleep deprivation, like Rev. I guess the shadow just... I dunno, looked like a cable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I guess the shadow just... I dunno, looked like a cable... Yeah, I swear that was it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Same here, darn it! Those shadows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Collective hallucination! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why is David always nailing the answer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why is David always nailing the answer!! mitch117, I have now marked this thread as solved, however it would be beneficial to everyone if you could please update your results once you get the new cable - thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boafzilla Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 [...] it would be beneficial to everyone if you could please update your results once you get the new cable [...] Peace of mind for those of us hallucinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 [Peace of mind for those of us hallucinating. Grandma? I thought you were dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim bee Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Five years too late . . . I just had the same problem as Mitch117, but monitoring my Logic mix through headphones plugged into a Saffire Pro 40 interface. When panning a Logic track hard right, I lost all volume from the track in both Logic 9 and Logic X. But panning hard right and hard left worked as expected if I used the built-in Mac Pro output to monitor the mix through headphones. So it had to be isolated to the Saffire Pro or the Mix Control software. I reset the Mix Control software to the factory default, and that fixed the problem. Unfortunately, Mix Control is mysterious to me, so I don't know why that worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felipe Paccagnella Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Hey! I was having the same issue, then I realized that I had my mono tracks grouped, and the group track, even though it was stereo, had a mono EQ, which was giving me this issue.. once I made the EQ in the group track stereo, everything went back to normal.. hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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