reflectingme Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Hi All I saw a similar question posted recently but not quite what I wanted to do at one point, so thought I'd ask specifically - despite having done this another way. I started writing a piece of music using a patch on one of my synths; the patch was in 4/4. I ended up messing with the piece, recording a few chords, a percussion track and a lead(ish), but having played around, then I decided to change it to 5/4 rather than 4/4 and I liked what I heard. I tried, using LogicPro, to amend the time signature to be 5/4 - which was easy of course, but this moved all the notes out of sequence - obviously - when what I really wanted to do was to insert this extra crotchet to cover the 5th beat - into every bar. There was no way I could do this in Logic, and my choices were to (1) manually amend every bar in Logic or (2) amend the time sig on the synth and re-record. Is there a way to get Logic to do it the way I wanted? i.e. by inserting a beat in each bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I'm afraid you'd have to manually amend every bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Not sure to understand where you are going with this, but have you considered the possibility to slice your track(s) at every bar, then insert between the slices what you wish? And then adjust the time signature to 5/4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Not sure to understand where you are going with this, but have you considered the possibility to slice your track(s) at every bar, then insert between the slices what you wish? And then adjust the time signature to 5/4... That's what I meant by "amend each bar manually". You'll have to move the slices one by one in order to insert anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzzzz Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Not in front of Logic right now, but couldn't you use the Transform Window to assist in this? Adding to what both Atlas and David are mentioning, couldn't you do something like the following: - Use the multi-divide feature to cut at every bar with a singe action (I think it's opt+scissors?) - Highlight all the midi regions - Use the transform window to increase each region by 1 quarter note - Slide all the regions over so they don't overlap (I thought I saw a function for this in the arrange window somewhere... something along the lines of "shift regions with no overlap"). Sorry, not in front of Logic at the moment, and I'm not sure that actually achieves what you want, but thought I'd put it out there just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Use the transform window to increase each region by 1 quarter note As far as I know you cannot use the tranform window to edit regions. But you could select all regions and resize one of them, resizing them all in one go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razzzzz Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Ah shucks. Well I guess you could still multi select the regions, then grab the lower right corner of one of the selected regions and drag it to the right to get that extra quarter note in. Might even be easier than opening up the arrange window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockingroller Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 What I'm trying to do is change the time signature of each channel. My project is naturally in 4/4. No problem. What I would like is to run one of my channels at cut time. Is there any way I can make an exception for that single Channel? It seems that when I change the time signature for that one channel, it applies to ALL channels. Even after I've protected the other regions, AND locked them in SMPTE . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just as with notated scores, only one time signature is written for the whole piece at any point in time. That doesn't stop you writing polymetric or polyrhythmic pieces, you just have to decide the clearest way to notate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reflectingme Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just as with notated scores, only one time signature is written for the whole piece at any point in time. That doesn't stop you writing polymetric or polyrhythmic pieces, you just have to decide the clearest way to notate it. I've seen and played several pieces where there are different time signatures prevalent in a piece at the same time. Often used for an effect of counter rhythm, or sometimes contrast in time sigs such as 3/4 over 6/8. I've also played a piece that is scored where the time signature changes bar by bar across the ensemble in a type of catch up manner. Superb effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Just as with notated scores, only one time signature is written for the whole piece at any point in time. That doesn't stop you writing polymetric or polyrhythmic pieces, you just have to decide the clearest way to notate it. I've seen and played several pieces where there are different time signatures prevalent in a piece at the same time. Often used for an effect of counter rhythm, or sometimes contrast in time sigs such as 3/4 over 6/8. I've also played a piece that is scored where the time signature changes bar by bar across the ensemble in a type of catch up manner. Superb effect. Hey, I'd love to see that. In my experience, of course different parts can play different times. Then you have graphic scores, which are outside the realm of midi as it is in Logic. But different time signatures written as such in a score? Sounds like an absolute nightmare for the conductor: "ok, let's go from the cello's bar 67; that's the second quarter rest in bar 54 for first trumpet, for second viola that's... etc. etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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