monitor same track during pre-roll? [SOLVED]

[nathansu]

Hi, I'm a convert from ProTools and trying to duplicate something I used to do there. I'm recording an audiobook. Frequently, I make a mistake reading and need to stop, back up a few seconds (by draggin the insertion point), and record over the mistake. "roll and punch" as it's called by some. I need a little pre-roll to get into the flow of the text. I know how to set the pre-roll in logic, but the problem is that I can't hear the material already recorded that's leading up to the insertion point - the material during the pre-roll.

 

This happens whether I select "count in" or "record pre-roll" in the recording settings. It seems like what I'm asking is exactly what "Auto Input Monitoring" is meant to toggle, but selected or not it makes no difference.

 

I CAN hear all recorded audio while playing, and I can hear audio on OTHER tracks during the pre-roll (software monitoring is checked in audio prefs), but I can't hear audio on the same track. Is it possible to do so in logic?

 

I realize there are alternative approches: I could record on two tracks, alternating between them at each mistake and sorting it out later. I can also punch in on the fly. But these are not ideal. Setting a punch in point and doing auto punch would work, except that a punch out point is set, too, and I don't know the duration - I want to keep recording until I need to stop again. If there's a way to change the default length of the autopunch selection, that would work.

 

I know this is all kind of nit-picky, but this process is something I could go through hundreds of times in the course of a book, so saving a click really adds up.

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

In case it matters: I'm using Logic 9.1.7. My basic setup is a Yeti (USB) mic straight into the macbook pro.

[sfvo]

I am having the same problem... do you ever figure out how to do this? If so, please share

[nathansu]

Nope, still hoping someone here might have an answer.

[David Nahmani]

You need to use Autopunch mode or to punch on the fly in order to hear the audio before the recording point.

[nathansu]

Thanks, David. That's disappointing, but good to know, at least.

 

Do you know if there's a way to change the default length for autopunch? If I could change it to something like 10 minutes from wherever I set the in point, that would solve my problem.

[David Nahmani]

Do you know if there's a way to change the default length for autopunch?

Do you mean the first time you turn them on in a new project? You could just set up a template with the right Autopunch locator at bar 200 and save it.

[nathansu]

That works. I actually set the right autopunch locator at around 800. That gives me 30 minutes or so without having to adjust it. That won't create problems? I mean, logic's not allocating memory or anything like that based on the right marker? If not, would I be correct to assume that I could set the marker out to, say, measure 16,000? That would be roughly 10 hours, which would accommodate most books.

 

Thanks again - this is a huge help for me. I was already getting ready to set up an old desktop mac with protools 6 (old) just so I could use this workflow.

[David Nahmani]

That won't create problems? I mean, logic's not allocating memory or anything like that based on the right marker?

No. No problem.

 

If not, would I be correct to assume that I could set the marker out to, say, measure 16,000?

Should be fine.

[sfvo]

Nathansu,

 

Not sure I understand... does this provide the punch/roll concept for logic? If so, can you create a numbered list of steps to accomplish this? Not sure I am understanding this ;(

[nathansu]

Thanks again, David.

 

sfvo. I just enabled autopunch, then set the punch in locator at the beginning of the audio and dragged the punch out locator to the end. If you keep dragging it to the right of the end, the file will lengthen, adding more time to the length of the file. Drag it out far enough and it becomes a non-issue. When you make a mistake, stop, move the playhead to where you'd like recording to start, then set the punch in locator (I customized the transport bar to include the "set punch in locator" button). Click record. Playhead jumps back and plays pre-roll, track is audible all the while, and when it crosses the punch in locator, the input takes over. Hope that helps.

[David Nahmani]

You're welcome Nathan!

[msymms]

Okay, I know this is a really old topic, but I have tried the solution offered. Logic "lets" me hear the audio only when it wants to.  Most of the time that is not the case.  Can some one help?

 

-mark

 

Logic Pro 9.1.8 (64-bit)

OSX 10.11.6

8Gb Ram

Software Monitoring on

Autopunch enabled

Pre-Roll set to 3 secs and enabled

[David Nahmani]

Okay, I know this is a really old topic, but I have tried the solution offered. Logic "lets" me hear the audio only when it wants to.  Most of the time that is not the case.  Can some one help?

 

-mark

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