Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hi, I was lurking around on the internet, found an old post on here that was discussing the same issue that I am currently having. Unfortunately, the OP's problem was never solved.. lol viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60435&start=40 Anyways, I tried all of the solutions that were mentioned in the thread, but couldn't get it fixed either. The issue occurs when a note is initially played in the ES2 synth. The note will produce a click, unless the synth is in legato mode and there are midi notes overlapping each other. I've learned to get around this by using the overlapping note method, lol.. but if I loop a region composed of a synth bassline for example, that first note will always produce a click. Of course I tried setting the ADSR envelope.. there were even specific settings mentioned in the thread posted above, but still couldn't fix the issue. If you really need me to upload an example I will but I am lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 but if I loop a region composed of a synth bassline for example, that first note will always produce a click. How exactly are you looping the region? By defining a cycle area in the bar ruler, or by using the Loop checkbox in the region parameters box in the inspector? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Looping isn't the issue. This will happen when played live as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 It has to do with way ES2 functions as a synth. For very low bass synths, a click will occur whenever a single note is played. This is in the ES2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark R Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Make sure the click isn't programmed into the ES2. In the upper right side of the interface, make sure the 'Osc Start' parameter is not set to hard (select Soft or Free). And 'Flt Reset' button is not On (set it to Off). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Raise the Env3 attack time ever so slightly until the click disappears: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 When I raise the attack time the click will not disappear it will merely be warped into a dubstep type sound.. lol This has really been bugging me. Are all these suggestions known solutions to the issue? Have you all encountered what I am describing to you before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 And I appreciate your guys help so far I might just be dumb, but I don't think that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Attach your es2 setting to this thread, so we can give it a try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ok man sorry but I believed I solved it. I gotta have you explain something to me first though. When I set the attack time for the third envelope, what is the difference between having the two halves of the fader spread apart, as if setting a range. As opposed to having them closed? Anyways, when I set the attack time above 500ms the click seems to disappear. I was having the same issue in two separate projects, and I swear in the other one I was getting those weird effects i mentioned earlier when setting the attack time. I also slightly raised my decay and release times to match yours because I started getting clicks in the middle and at the end of midi notes. Regardless, I've solved the issue. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 When I set the attack time for the third envelope, what is the difference between having the two halves of the fader spread apart, as if setting a range. As opposed to having them closed? Closed = attack time is the set for all velocities Open = attack time ranges from lower to higher slider positions depending on the velocity of your notes. Anyways, when I set the attack time above 500ms the click seems to disappear. 500ms is super slow. You shouldn't need that much attack time to get rid of the click, so something else must be going on... still willing to have a look at your ES2 setting for you if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man.He.Pack-Be-Loud Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Alright pal I will try and do that later tonight. I knew 500ms seemed a bit overdone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjaminOe Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Hi! I had same issue, and also tried raising the attack time, delay time as well, and generally played around with the envelopes, mainly envelope 3, and turned Ost Start to Soft. What helped was to also lowering the xtra sine way turn-knob located to the right of the filters, named "Sine level". Maybe the xtra sine way, the sineway from the "Sine level" turn knob to the right of the filters, isn't affected by by free/soft/hard option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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