Electro_Jason Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hey there, I have this song I can't get that accordion out of the vocals. I can mute it down a bit but it's still too loud. Could someone do me a massive favor and either get it out for me or tell me how to do it. Thanks in advance people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristancalvaire Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 You can't. You can just mutilate it with filters and EQs until you get something that's at least usable. Unless of course you have an exact instrumental copy with everything but the vocals. Perhaps mutilate it as best you can, then process the vocals in a way that is inherently damaging but pleasing– a vocoder, bitspeek, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camillo jr Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 You could try Voxengo's free MSED plug. Set it to "side mute" and that will get rid of some, but not all of the accordion, by eliminating the side part of the stereo signal. As tristancalvaire says, you can't get rid of it totally, at least not with Logic's tools. There is some high-end software out there that can separate parts of a mix from a two track mixdown but it's pricey and I'm not even sure it's readily available. On the more affordable lane is Roland's R-Mix, which can do interesting things to a full mixdown, including re-panning of instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 The Voxreducer II AU plugin is also worth trying, though the results are predictably garglygarbly (as is this audio with the video, I hope you're using a better quality clip in Logic). http://loudsoftware.com/?HG=Downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro_Jason Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 You can't. You can just mutilate it with filters and EQs until you get something that's at least usable. Unless of course you have an exact instrumental copy with everything but the vocals. Perhaps mutilate it as best you can, then process the vocals in a way that is inherently damaging but pleasing– a vocoder, bitspeek, etc. Yes, I did this and it actually still sounded clear. You could just still hear some of that accordion. A I wouldn't like to use any mutilation plug-ins as it's going to be a soft part where he sings. But thanks for the idea. You could try Voxengo's free MSED plug. Set it to "side mute" and that will get rid of some, but not all of the accordion, by eliminating the side part of the stereo signal. As tristancalvaire says, you can't get rid of it totally, at least not with Logic's tools. There is some high-end software out there that can separate parts of a mix from a two track mixdown but it's pricey and I'm not even sure it's readily available. On the more affordable lane is Roland's R-Mix, which can do interesting things to a full mixdown, including re-panning of instruments. Hey thanks I will try that. Maybe the bit left over I could just cover it up with a louder bass, I know that's what a lot of people do in bootlegs. And I'm not looking to spending a great deal of money as of yet but I will definitely keep it in mind. As for that roland software, it does look good. Do you think it's worth getting though? Because it might just be that accordion which is making it hard to cut out and get good vocals. The Voxreducer II AU plugin is also worth trying, though the results are predictably garglygarbly (as is this audio with the video, I hope you're using a better quality clip in Logic).http://loudsoftware.com/?HG=Downloads If camillo's plug-in doesn't sound good then I will definitely try this. Thanks. Also, I have listened to a number of bootleg remixes and the sound so clear. Do they have these high class software to do it or just use what's easily accessible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I have listened to a number of bootleg remixes and the sound so clear. Do they have these high class software to do it or just use what's easily accessible? A real remix is made with the original stems - which is a world of difference. Remixing using these "M/S filtering & EQ techniques" will always result in something you can't really publish, it's a just a practice run, also it teaches you that you cannot really bake any decent cake by extracting ingredients from other cakes. I use that VR plugin so I can quickly (& dirtily) remove 80/90 % of a vocal in order for someone to sing along to it. After that, it's deleted from the project and replaced by a "real" (with instruments) arrangement. I don't believe that you can really remove the accordeon in any sort of useful way - it has just to much harmonics that are mixed/intertwined with the harmonix of the voice, and too much EQing will ruïn anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro_Jason Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hmm that is disappointing. So the only way for me to actually remix songs properly is by getting recognized? That kind of makes a small bracket of people who can make a remix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hmm that is disappointing. So the only way for me to actually remix songs properly is by getting recognized? That kind of makes a small bracket of people who can make a remix. No, wrong conclusion. Some artists make stems of their songs available for remixing, that's how almost all (non-pro-) remixers get their material. Of course there are also those who replicate a song using MIDI (although that would be a cover rather than a remix). Maybe you should start a separate topic inquiring about where to get stems, or do a search on this forum, there must be some good info on where to find 'm. Or just Google "remix stems". I just did, this was the top hit: http://www.remixcomps.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electro_Jason Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 Right yes. I have entered for one of these. It was very useful I have to say. But you can't pick what you want to remix, I chose this song because it was perfect and I could imagine what it would sound like. But I searched the song for stems and I got this! https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=290379&sid=589e360b7370bd82acdc9992bb5603a1 But I clicked on the link...but it didn't work. So close.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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