Problems with ES1 cut off

[Esraep]

Hey,

 

I've started a brand new project, I have used the exs 24 to create a simple kick drum

 

I created a new track and clicked into the ES1, I have adjusted the cut off and some other parameters but for some reason when I play the keyboard, it randomly re-sets itself back to its default setting for whatever pre-set i was on, then sometimes adjusts itself again but a more subtle adjustment,

 

There is no automation on, i havnt recorded anything, i have set up the environment so it looks like the attached (I have done this before without any problems so pretty much discounting this), learn mode for my midi keyboard is off, im not sure whats going on,

 

Im using an iMac running mountain lion with an akai mpk49 midi keyboard,

 

Any suggestions would be great,

 

Thanks

 

Pearse

[Jordi Torres]

Some of the ES1's parameters are "hard-wired" to certain MIDI CC's, so probably one of your MIDI devices is sending these messages "without your consent". Most likely the MPK49.

 

What I find weird is that in your screenshot of the click and ports layer, you have a blank port between the fast track and capslock keyboard ports. I have an MPK49 and it I get 3 ports for it..and they're labeled, not blank. This is what you should have as well.

 

J.

[Esraep]

Ok, cheers for the advice dude, how do I stop the ES1 cut off being hard wired to the MPK49? i used a cheap m audio ozone before and never had this problem, why does the lot more expensive mpk49 create this problem,

 

Is the answer that I need to replace my midi keyboard? i type in the problem to google and not many hits come up so it doesnt look like it is a very common issue, which makes me think theres something that can be done do fix it without changing midi controllers,

 

Pearse

[David Nahmani]

Ok, cheers for the advice dude, how do I stop the ES1 cut off being hard wired to the MPK49?

You can't stop the ES1 to respond to those hard wired controller numbers. You can however stop the MPK49 from sending those controller numbers. For that, refer to the MPK49 manual. I see on your screenshot that you're sending MIDI controller #17, which is hardwired to the cutoff on the ES1. If you see any other parameters on the ES1 moving on their own, look at that same monitor in the environment to see what other controller your MPK49 is sending?

[Jordi Torres]

It is not necessary to get another MIDI controller. Like David says, you can configure what MIDI CC gets sent by each fader/knob/button on the MPK.

 

If you see any other parameters on the ES1 moving on their own, look at that same monitor in the environment to see what other controller your MPK49 is sending?

 

This info will also be displayed in your MPK49's screen.

 

You'll have to save all these changes to a preset to make them permanent (so you don't lose them when turning the MPK off).

 

It's all neatly explained in the MPK's manual.

 

J.

[Esraep]

Thanks for the advice, does this mean my controller will have reduced functionality?

 

bit pointless having it then in fairness, may as well trade it for a controller that doesnt send unhelpful hard wired controller numbers. whatever they are,

 

I bought the keyboard second hand but in v good condition, i dont have a user manual. presumably there is one on the internet that i will spend a lot of time trying to find and then decode to get what i'm looking for. all a bit of a mission.

[Jordi Torres]

does this mean my controller will have reduced functionality? bit pointless having it then in fairness, may as well trade it for a controller that doesnt send unhelpful hard wired controller numbers. whatever they are,

 

Not unless you intend to use ALL available MIDI CC's in each and every one of your projects. Keep in mind that this is not the controller's "fault", it's just how the ES1 was programmed by its developper/s. If you take any other MIDI keyboard whose knobs send those CC's the ES1 will respond just the same way it does to the MPK49.

 

I bought the keyboard second hand but in v good condition, i dont have a user manual. presumably there is one on the internet that i will spend a lot of time trying to find and then decode to get what i'm looking for. all a bit of a mission.

 

The manual is at AKAI's website, in the section dedicated to the MPK49. Nothing hard about finding it. The manual is quite brief and to-the-point. The info you need is in page 20 (Editing the Knobs and Sliders) and page 13 (Preset Mode).

 

J.

[David Nahmani]

does this mean my controller will have reduced functionality?

Absolutely not! You're telling us that your controller is sending controller events you don't want it to be sending. The answer is that you need to dig into the keyboard's interface and find out how to stop it from sending those events.

 

First, find out what events exactly are being sent, and when. I mean, the keyboard shouldn't be sending any events unless you press a key, turn a knob, move a wheel or push a button. So keep watching the monitor in the environment, and make sure the keyboard doesn't send anything when you're not touching it, and make sure it sends what you want when you touch something on it.