First Note in MIDI Region

[Fries]

I've searched around on the forum for this but haven't been able to come up with a rhyme or reason.

 

Why oh why do the first notes of my MIDI regions not play until the cycle repeats?

 

They are quantized.

My region boundaries appear to be set properly.

 

It's like Logic just wants that cycle to run through completely before the first note plays. Not a big deal but a little aggravating, and it makes me VERY curious.

 

Anyone else have this issue? More importantly perhaps, anyone have a solution?

 

-Thanx Friends

[tonecluster]

Quantizing the first note should fix it. Are there any controller data associated with volume or anything like that? Have you played with the midi note chase function (I believe it's in the Song Preferences under MIDI).

[Fries]

Hello,

 

Their is no controller data recorded. I have played with the MIDI note chase function and it does not change the situation. Possibly, it is because I do not know exactly which settings I need to adjust in the MIDI note chase menu. I will keep tweeking them all, but no results yet.

 

I actually tried this earlier too because another post suggested it as a solution. Quantizing first note has not fixed it either.

 

This actually transferred into my bounce as well. I bounced the track to listen, and first note on the Audio Instrument was not present in bounce...

 

Thanks for your help. If you think of anything else please repost. I will post again and keep you updated on progress.

[stevecowley]

I'm assuming that you mean the first note doesn't play when you're playing from the location of that note? For example, the cycle starts at 9 1 1 1, and the note that you don't hear is also at 9 1 1 1? I had a similar problem the other day - except at the beginning of the cycle I had a 4 note chord. When I pressed play, only 2 of the 4 notes actually sounded! And as you say, when Logic reaches the end of the cycle and starts it again, all the notes sound correctly. I am 100% sure there is no automation or controller data there, and the notes are all quantized. So I guess it's a bug (or "quirk", if you prefer).

 

Steve

[tonecluster]

Just for kicks, select the disappearing notes and open the event editor and confirm that their start times really are at the start of the measure.

 

Are you sure the region itself is quantized to the start of the measure?

 

What happens if you add a single tick value to the offending notes' start times? If that doesn't fix it, try to find the smallest value that guarantees that they will always play.

[David Nahmani]

I am experiencing this problem quite a bit. Sometimes it works, sometimes the first note won't play. I have tried all settings and preferences, and sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't.

 

I do believe it's a PDC issue in some case, so try to play with that preference.

 

In the end I just learned to always start the playback a little bit before the first note.

[meadone]

I am experiencing this problem quite a bit. Sometimes it works, sometimes the first note won't play. I have tried all settings and preferences, and sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't.

 

I do believe it's a PDC issue in some case, so try to play with that preference.

 

In the end I just learned to always start the playback a little bit before the first note.

 

hi first time poster here.

i have this exact same problem with

some songs. After a while it will do this.

since it doesnt do it when i start a new song

i just think that i may have hit a hot key or something

that messed it up. i start the playback before the first note

now aswell for those songs that are messed up. I also have latency

when i introduce plugins on the outputs 1 - 2. Maybe

i should go back to using fruityloops.

[Fries]

Thankfully I haven't had this happen to me in awhile!

[michael.lee]

This a real problem.

 

I've gotten in the habit of selecting the region, then hitting the key-command for "play from selection". It catches those first notes.

[David Nahmani]

This a real problem.

 

I've gotten in the habit of selecting the region, then hitting the key-command for "play from selection". It catches those first notes.

Thanks a lot for sharing the workaround. I'll try it next time I have that problem!! I was just making the cycle a few ticks longer on the right... not an ideal solution.

[Justin-Ch]

I get this sometimes too, but it seems to happen only with third-party plug-ins. Never with Logic instruments.

 

Another thing that sometimes happens is that I will play a song from the start, (which is normally set back to bar zero rather than 1 to start off with a bar of silence) but I will get one instrument playing the last note it plays in the song even though there there is no region to be played!?!?

 

What is especially strange is that it often sounds like it is just playing the decay portion of the sound, not the full attack. So it is like the audio being output from the instrument being stuck in Logic somehow, rather than a midi signal, being triggered again.

 

My favourite freeware synth daHornet is a particular culprit with both these things!

 

EDIT: Ah! This is what is happening: http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=10342