Teeteto Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hello everybody! I must already thank you for the many times I've found useful info in these pages: however, there's one issue I can't seem to be able to solve, so here it goes: I cannot make autopunch work as intended for MIDI regions editing. My goal is to be able to record a portion of a MIDI region several times in cycle, and to choose afterwards the best take. To this end, I've enabled autopunch mode (say bars 3 to 5), I've enabled cycle mode (bars 2 to 6), I've selected "punch on the fly". What I get is that the newly region occupies the whole cycle interval, rather than the autopunch one, and I cannot quickly resize it to the autopunch interval. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! Ps: Logic Pro 9.1.8, MacBook Pro Late 2008, Mountain Lion (10.8.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Under File > Project Settings > Recording > MIDI, what is your "Overlapping Recordings" menu set to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeteto Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 "Create Take Folders" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Well then keeping in mind that you can't comp MIDI take folders, you can't punch in/out in that mode without turning on the Replace mode (button with an X in your transport bar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTMusic Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi you can't punch in/out in that mode without turning on the Replace mode (button with an X in your transport bar). Could you please clarify? With MIDI Recording settings set to Create Take Folders, cycle enabled plus Autopunch (NO Replace), this works entirely as expected: additional takes are created with each pass. CCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 With MIDI Recording settings set to Create Take Folders, cycle enabled plus Autopunch (NO Replace), this works entirely as expected: additional takes are created with each pass. But the takes have the length of the cycle area, not the autopunch area. That's what the OP is complaining about, that's not the expected behavior when punching in/out (where you expect to hear the original recording outside the Autopunch area), and the Replace mode fixes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTMusic Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi But the takes have the length of the cycle area, not the autopunch area. That's what the OP is complaining about, that's not the expected behavior when punching in/out (where you expect to hear the original recording outside the Autopunch area), and the Replace mode fixes that. Hmm... thanks for clarifying Trouble is that when recording with Cycle, Autopunch and Replace on, you still get a Take folder the length of the cycle (though the material recorded is only within the Autopunch area, as you would expect): Even if you do a few passes without Autopunch, then overdub with Cycle, Autopunch and Replace on, you still get Takes the length of the cycle for the Autopunch recordings. In the Pic below, the Pink takes were the original cycle recording. Autopunch was then enabled with Replace and a few more passes made (Green).The Overdub has been moved to the track below for clarity: The original takes have been cut where the Autopunch/Replace area is, and the overdubbed (Green) Takes are still the length of the cycle (again with material only recorded within the Autopunch area). It is the same for LP9 and LPX: Replace does not shorten the Takes, or the Take Folder, but it does it only record inside the Autopunch area). Perhaps this is what you mean? Recording without Replace has a a similar result except that the original recorded region is not cut at the Autopunch areas. Unless I am misunderstanding the issue? CCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Trouble is that when recording with Cycle, Autopunch and Replace on, you still get a Take folder the length of the cycle Wow. I could swear I just tried that and it gave me a take folder the length of the autopunch area but you're right, it's the length of the cycle area. Still...: When Replace mode is off, you can't hear the original material outside the autopunch area. You hear silence instead. Not the expected behavior when puching in. When Replace mode is on, you can hear the original material outside the autopunch area, as expected when punching in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTMusic Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Trouble is that when recording with Cycle, Autopunch and Replace on, you still get a Take folder the length of the cycle Wow. I could swear I just tried that and it gave me a take folder the length of the autopunch area but you're right, it's the length of the cycle area. Still...: When Replace mode is off, you can't hear the original material outside the autopunch area. You hear silence instead. Not the expected behavior when puching in. When Replace mode is on, you can hear the original material outside the autopunch area, as expected when punching in. Ahh.. I see what you were getting at... not the length of the Takes themselves, but the audible results. Thanks for clarifying 8) CCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The length of the takes was what I originally meant - but you showed me that's wrong. Cheers and sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTMusic Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hi No problem... seemed like maybe both of us were going mad 8) CCT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeteto Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Gosh, thanks CCTMusic for being so thorough in reporting the issue! So, all in all, what is the best setting for recording several takes for a portion of a MIDI region and then later choosing the best one? Because aside from the actual MIDI region being bigger than expected, with Replace mode on you just loose the previous recording. My goal would be to keep it, in case the next takes are worse than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Teeteto, heres' the workflow I would choose: 1) Select your MIDI track and choose Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument. 2) Create a cycle area, R-enable the new track and cycle-record on the new track. No Autopunch mode needed. You can always consolidate the two tracks into one by merging the MIDI regions later (Regions > Merge > Regions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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