How to get Fader Control numbers

[vpunk]

Here 's a tip to figure out your fader control message for ANY plugin in logic - even third party.

 

1)In your environment setup a monitor.

 

2) now connect the output of an instrument track to your monitor.

 

3) moving a parameter on your plugin will display some thing like "F 2 45 x"

- The F indicates Fader message.

- The 2 Indicates that this is the first plugin - instrument. A 3 would be for an insert, and a 1 would be for things of the channel strip.

- The 45 is the controll/fader number

 

These numbers are typically used for programming controls to work from banks in a controller.

 

Hope this helps someone.

[David Nahmani]

The 2 Indicates that this is the first plugin - instrument. A 3 would be for an insert, and a 1 would be for things of the channel strip

 

The 2 is actually the "MIDI" channel (even though a Fader is not really a MIDI event, it's pretty much the equivalent of an internal MIDI event).

 

You are correct that MIDI Channel 1 is used for channel strip controls (volume, pan...). Then MIDI Cha 2 is used for the first plug-in, MIDI Cha 3 for the second plug-in.... keeping in mind that on a software instrument track, the instrument is the first plug-in, and the processing plug-in in the first insert slot is the second plug-in, hence controlled by MIDI Cha 3.

 

On all other channel strips, the plug-in in the first insert slot is controlled by MIDI Cha 2.

[vpunk]

I stand corrected.

 

[David Nahmani]

Well it's not like what you said was wrong, I'm just adding more details. This is the method I use to find out what fader event to send to a plug-in. It is much more reliable than real MIDI events.

 

Thanks to you for writing this quick tutorial!

[vpunk]

touche . .. . I'm actually at work right now and away from Logic. (Oh how I miss thee). So a lot of what I type is from memory.

[nosebagger]

That is a good method, but this is another one that I also find useful:

 

1. Put your track into touch mode.

2. Hit Play and move the plug-in parameter you're interested in.

3. Open the Automation Event List (Ctrl-Apple-E) and read the fader data you have just written.

4. Undo (to clear the automation data written in step 2).

 

If you drop step 3, this is also a good method for quickly making visible a parameter that you want to use with Quick Access.

 

Tom

[David Nahmani]

Or simply cable the channel strip into a Monitor and tweak the parameter you want to control.