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PSP OldTimer and PSP Echo compared to logic stock.

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I've recently become a big fan of PSP EQ's. So I am looking at some of their other plugins. Been listening to demos of a few of them this week. I was hoping some of you could tell me of your own experience with the Echo delay and the Oldtimer... Specifically if you find them useful or redundant with respects to Logic's Tape Delay and Compressor. Would appreciate your input.
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