Joining regions that have space between them

[ClaraEfrona]

Hi,

 

I am waiting for my Logic Pro X book in the mail. I just got it today, (thank you David N.). I'm sure my question will be answered in it, however, my homework is due on Sunday! My husband and I are mixing a song for a school project.

 

There are artifacts in the audio files. Little clicks on the drum track... like they created the track using multiple files and didn't do crossfades. The same thing happens on the vocal and it's right in the middle of a note being held by the singer.

 

I can locate these noises and cut them out. This will work fine for the drums because the noise happens just before and just after their waveform peaks. The vocal is a different story since the note is being held. When I cut out the noise in the vocal track and I'm left with this little space there, how do I join those regions?

 

I've tried dragging the audio and then crossfading, but that didn't work... I don't think I can use a crossfade because of this nice beautiful note being held by the singer. It has to be seamless.

 

Thank you for your help!

[skltr2182]

its hard to give an answer without hearing it really.....

[DaveRobinson]

As skltr2182 says it is difficult to answer without hearing the sound. However I've put a link to a YouTube movie that you might want to checkout, Surgical EQ may not be the answer to your problem but it's certainly a useful technique to add to your collection. It is great in certain circumstances for cleaning up noise from audio files.

Enjoy your new book

 

Surgical EQ

[ClaraEfrona]

Hey Dave and skltr,

 

Thank you for replying to my post. I uploaded a snippet to SoundCloud so you can hear it. https://soundcloud.com/clara-efrona/vocal-artifact

 

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/clara-efrona/vocal-artifact[/soundcloud]

[DaveRobinson]

The YouTube audio demo clip below is a simpler fix than your example as the note in yours is sustained.

Try this first Clara.

 

Use the Audio File Editor Pencil tool

 

Removing Clicks and Pops in Logic X

[ClaraEfrona]

Ah, cool. Thank you. I figured out how to use the pencil tool.

 

The transient is not a true transient like in Yaiza Varona's video, it sounds (and looks) more like a bad edit.

 

I tried re-writing the waveforms to blend them better. That was a nightmare. haha!

 

My teacher suggested I cut out the bad edit and use a long cross-fade. I'll tackle that tomorrow.

 

Any other ideas? Just curious.

 

 

[DaveRobinson]

Ah, cool. Thank you. I figured out how to use the pencil tool. 

8) You’re Welcome

 

The transient is not a true transient like in Yaiza Varona's video, it sounds (and looks) more like a bad edit.

I see that now from your snapshots, that’s what I meant with “[…] The note in yours is sustained”.

Still you’ve had a go with the pencil tool and know how to use it now.

 

I tried re-writing the waveforms to blend them better. That was a nightmare. haha!

Good practice and as you see in the Yaiza Varona video, very useful.

 

My teacher suggested I cut out the bad edit and use a long cross-fade. I'll tackle that tomorrow.

If you right click on the ‘vocal-artifact’ clip and compress to zip, attach it in a post with info about tempo, it would help. It would be nice to have a close look.

 

Any other ideas? Just curious.

Always make a backup of any audio file you plan to edit.

In the main area editing is non destructive.

Most edits and functions performed in the Audio File Editor are destructive.

 

Audio File Editor overview

 

If you’ve read the ‘Getting Started’ chapter of David’s book page xi to xix. Then you’re setup with the right Key Command Preset to go through the rest of the book. I would suggest setting these custom key commands.

 

Open Key Commands ⌥K … Already setup as default.

 

Set these custom key commands. Very useful for moving through audio files.

Forward by Transient ⌃’

Rewind by Transient ⌃⇧’

 

Show/Hide Note Pad ⌥N .. A great feature in Logic.

 

It’s best to start at the beginning of the book and work through the lessons as it will train a natural workflow in Logic. However as you’ve jumped in at Audio editing “cross-fade. I’ll tackle that tomorrow”. I’d suggest you make a nice cup of green tea, or the beverage of your choice and read Lesson 3 ‘Editing Audio’.

 

These will help as they cover the same areas as Lesson 3 in the book.

I’d focus on the book and bookmark these for later.

 

Logic Pro X - Audio Edit Tools (parts 1+2)

 

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logic pro x Audio editor is destructive

 

 

Once you get this piece of homework done I’d recommend you go through the book from the beginning so you get the most benefit from it.

 

Have a great day 8)

[DaveRobinson]

Any other ideas? Just curious.

 

If you’ve gone through Lesson 3 Editing Audio Page 111 Comping Takes in David’s book you’ve used comp editing on recorded guitar regions. You can use already pre recorded audio regions to create a take folder and use quick swipe comping to overlay the noise in the original recording using another section of the region.

 

Creating New Parts from Existing Ones

 

Double click the vocal-artifact track header and rename the track vocal-artifact-01

 

press T and select the Text tool, or do do this quickly press T then 4

Use the Text tool to to rename the original region to vocal-artifact-A

 

Press T twice quickly to reset to the Pointer tool.

 

At the top of the track list, click the ‘New Track with Duplicate Settings’ Icon.

 

Or use the Track Menu to create the new track with duplicate settings.

 

Hold Option, left click and drag the original vocal-artifact-A region down and copy the region to the new track.

 

Use the Text tool and rename the new region vocal-artifact-B

Press T twice quickly to reset to the pointer tool.

 

Left Click Hold and Drag the new region vocal-artifact-B to the right and release once the help tab shows

Position 1.1.2.1

 

To make it easier to see which parts are playing, set each region to a different colour. Press Option-C to open the colour window. With the pointer tool select the vocal-artifact-A region and choose a colour from the colour window, and then apply a slightly different colour to vocal-artifact-B. Close the colour window.

 

Select the vocal-artifact-A and vocal-artifact-B regions by left clicking the background and dragging over both regions and from the Functions Menu select Folder > Pack Take Folder. I use shortcut key Ctrl-Cmd-F

 

There are three buttons at the upper left of the take folder.

The disclosure button opens/closes the take folder.

The take folder pop-up menu give info and options to manage your takes and comps.

The Quick Swipe Comping button allows you to toggle quick swipe comping on and off to edit the individual takes in the same way you would edit regions on a track.

 

You can toggle quick swipe comping off and move the take vocal-artifact-B to line up a more suitable section of the take to replace the noise. Then toggle quick swipe comping on again to try the new section.

 

The Marquee tool could be used instead to select different sections to try.

 

vocal-artifact-B region is moved into a new Take folder region named vocal-artifact—01 Comp-A which also contains vocal-artifact-A region.

 

Creating A Comp

 

Double click vocal-artifact-01 Comp-A take folder and press Z to zoom.

 

Click on vocal-artifact-A then vocal-artifact-B and notice how the vocal-artifact-01 Comp-A take folder changes to suit the region you select. Select vocal-artifact-A region and notice vocal-artifact-B is muted.

 

Click on vocal-artifact-01 Comp-A take folder and press Cmd-U to set the cycle range to the region and press C to turn on cycle mode.

 

Press the Spacebar and listen to vocal-artifact-A.

 

Click vocal-artifact-B and drag to the right to select an area of clean vocal and it will update the vocal-artifact Take Folder overwriting the bad area of the vocal. Use Cmd-Z to undo and experiment until happy with the result.

 

 

Cycle Mode and Quick Swipe Comping

 

Logic Pro X: Comping overview