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I just bought a BCR2000 controller and was testing MIDI learn and something weird is happening. I go into Logic, bring up the Learn panel, go into Learn mode. Touch the low-gain control on my 914 fixed filterbank plugin, then touch one of the rotary encoders on the BCR2000. It claims to have learned it. Watching MIDI Monitor I can see the BCR2000 smoothly sending MIDI CC values as I turn the encoder across it's range. It continues to send 127's at the top and 0's at the bottom as the encoders are endless. But I get some very weird s#!+ from Logic. Sometimes it ignores the message. Sometimes I get a very rough approximation of the movement, i.e. I will turn it and nothing will happen and then logic will jump the parameter some way, and sometimes it seems to treat it as a toggle and jump between on and off at roughly half the encoder range. Watching the MIDI data from the BCR2000 I can see nothing wrong. If I learn a control to the volume fader of a channel strip I get something different and equally screwed up. I made a video of that here: http://mattmower.com/stuffs/MIDILearnLogic9BCR2000/MIDILearnLogic9BCR2000.html (Please ignore the page around the video, it's the default created by QT) You can see how the volume fader mapping just doesn't work. Yet I went into Ableton Live and made the same mapping and it works flawlessly. Anyone else seeing these kinds of problems? Or know why I might be? Matt

Thanks fader8, I'll give that a try. Interesting Matt

Thanks fader8. I thought AU allowed for multiple sidechains. That said I don't understand what "external keying" is (nor can I immediately find a relevant google ref). Am I wrong in thinking that AU's can (at least in theory) have multiple sidechain inputs? Or is there something specific about what I want to do that makes it impossible in this case? Matt

Hi folks. Am I missing something that would let me have multiple sidechain inputs to a Reaktor instance? There is only one sidechain drop-down in the plugin window which is fair enough because I would guess the common case is sidechaining a compressor or something. I want to route multiple audio channels into a MIDI controlled Reaktor ensemble without mixing them in a bus. Is there some way I have missed to specify a second, third, ... sidechain that will turn on up on Reaktors inputs 3-4, 5-6, ... Thanks, Matt

Likewise. I'd really like to make my Sequencer an AU plugin. Beyond the feedback form is there an effective way of lobbying Apple or even finding out if there is some reason why they don't implement what is already supported by the AU spec? M.

Hi. Can anyone tell me the secret to using bounce-in-place with anything other than the first of a multi-output instrument? The first thing that caught me out is that I seem to have to have a MIDI track on the instrument track. I create my multi-outs the "old" way where I create an instrument & a multi, then wire 8 midi-through and end up with the instrument track and 8 MIDI tracks. The MIDI tracks drive the instrument but bounce-in-place does absolutely nothing unless I copy the MIDI region onto the instrument track in question. That let me bounce-in-place the first output track of my instrument. So I tried the same thing for output B, copying the MIDI region onto the track. But the bounce-in-place option is grayed out. So I tried going back and bouncing the first instrument track and selecting "Include Instrument multi-outputs" and, subsequently, "As additional tracks" and... Logic bounced only the first output again. I'm somewhat non-plussed. Why can't I just bounce-in-place the second output track of the instrument? And why, when bouncing as a multi, is it only bouncing the first output? Can anyone help me out? Thanks, Matt Update: On the second output track the option "Export as audio file" is not grayed out. I tried that thinking I'd just pull the audio manually into a new audio track. But no dice. It pretends, put's up an exporting dialog and scans through the track but.. no audio file at the end. Screenshot below shows the state after attempting to bounce-in-place the multi-out instrument as described above. Screenshot of Logic.

One awkward data point is that, this morning, I started Logic and opened the project that I crashed 4-5 times with last night and... nothing. I even managed to drive Reaktor to the point where 'The Finger' overloaded (by sending too many MIDI notes to it, too fast) and it didn't tip it over. This suggests I'm either looking in the wrong place or that it's a combination of factors that causes the crash. M.

It's 10.6.1. I have a Mackie Onyx Satellite FW audio interface which uses the built-in CoreAudio drivers. m.

I have Omnisphere but I haven't used it in any of the projects that have crashed this week, whereas Reaktor has always been open. Of course this may just point to some underlying problem that complex instruments like Omnisphere and Reaktor more easily tickle. I did an upgrade install of Snow Leopard. M.

Hi folks. I'm getting a *lot* of crashes in Logic this week. I've had either 4 or 5 this evening alone and it's really getting me down because it seems to happen just as I begin to get into a flow. My feeling is that it's being caused by Reaktor. I bought Tim Exile's The Finger instrument on Saturday and, since then, I've been using Reaktor a lot where, normally, I'd use it quite sparingly. It's totally anecdotal but that's how it seems. Does anyone have any good advice for determining what caused Logic to crash? Sometimes it hangs so there's no crash report. But even when I get one there's no smoking gun, e.g. Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000095c44cda Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Application Specific Information: abort() called Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96e7d912 __kill + 10 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96e7d904 kill$UNIX2003 + 32 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f10b99 raise + 26 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f26be5 __abort + 124 4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96f26c61 abort_report_np + 0 5 com.apple.logic.pro 0x003d7e64 0x1000 + 4025956 6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x96e82b9b _sigtramp + 43 7 ??? 0x0000000a 0 + 10 8 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c44b8e __CFRunLoopDoSource1 + 366 9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c409e9 __CFRunLoopRun + 5561 10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c3ed34 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 452 11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95c3eb61 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 97 12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950fefec RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 392 13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950feda3 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 354 14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x950fec28 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 81 15 com.apple.AppKit 0x94448c95 _DPSNextEvent + 847 16 com.apple.AppKit 0x9444850a -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 156 17 com.apple.AppKit 0x9440a69b -[NSApplication run] + 821 18 com.apple.prokit 0x00f49a01 NSProApplicationMain + 326 19 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00003bc6 0x1000 + 11206 The reference to _DPSNextEvent suggests to me that the crash may have happened while handling an AU but, beyond that, I can infer nothing. Anyone have any useful advice for this kind of situation? Matt Logic 9.0.1 OSX 10.6.1 Reaktor 5.0.1.005 MacBook Pro, 4GB RAM

It does, see: http://emberapp.com/sandbags/images/efm1-automap-pro M.

Here it works perfect ( I mean the Chaos Designer On/Off host automation with Logic 9 ). I suspect some mess in your "learn list", so could you try to "Clear All" which will reset your RMX learn assignments and try to learn from clear list... Scandor that's quite possible. I noticed something that looked odd: Part 1 Edit Group: Main Parameter: ChaosOnOff Host Automation Id: 0 Parameter: ChaosOnOff Host Automation Id: 74 Parameter: ChaosOnOff CC: 8 Channel: 1 Parameter: ChaosOnOff Host Automation Id: 76 i.e. 3 automation id's for the same part parameter. I asked about this in a thread in the Spectrasonics yahoo group that GlennG posted in but he didn't respond. I'll try your suggestion, thanks. Matt

In this case what I was automating was, effectively, reverse and buzz. I'd already created my MIDI regions. Short amounts of buzz through a dubby delay sound good to me! Matt

Thanks but I really did want to draw in automation rather than mapping MIDI controllers and recording. I've since made it work although it's a little glitchy which makes me suspicious of an issue in either RMX or Logic 9. There's also a parameter naming problem but, hopefully, that too can be addressed since the underlying problem has been solved in Logic 9. Matt

I've read several people talking about getting 'Low Memory' warnings from Logic 9 but I assumed they were cruising near to the 4GB ceiling. I just opened my Logic project and got that warning dialog but, according to Activity monitor, Logic 9.0 is using 1.49GB real memory and 762MB virtual memory. I have a 4GB 2.4GHz MacBook Pro. It seems I should have quite a bit of headroom left. Is Logic just being very cautious in giving me this warning early? Or am I misreading the memory figures and actually closer to exiting/crashing than I think? I guess the memory hog is Kontakt 3.5, I have about 900MB of samples loaded. Update: Nope, no headroom at all. Tried to load one more instrument and got the "Out of memory, Logic has to quit now" dialog. Which wasn't very pretty because it crashed instead. Guess I'm either going to have to check out the Kontakt Memory Server or start working with individual instruments and bouncing to audio. Roll on 64-bit Logic & plugins. I didn't care before but now I understand why people are so eager. Regards, Matt

A ha! Normally I use the "old way" creating multi's but, since i was making a new template, this time I thought "let's be good and use this new multi-timbral thingy". This explains why I haven't seen the problem before, thank you. I'll try your other workaround before going back to the old way again. Thanks for that m/

Hi. I have a (locked) screenset with a big arrange window on my primary display (24" CD) and a mixer on my secondary (15" LCD on MacBookPro). What I'm finding is that although I keep setting the mixer to "Arrange" and locking the screenset. It keeps changing the mixer back to "All". For example I'll click arrange in the mixer. Then go to the arrange window and click a track, the mixer is still okay, then I'll click and different track and the mixer will jump to "All" And All is is damned annoying since it has the "prelisten" and "click" tracks and it even puts the click track in between two of my Kontakt ouput tracks. I've not seen this happen when working before, does anyone know why this is happening to me now? Logic 9.0 on Mac OSX 10.5.8 Many thanks, Matt

Well, assuming that such a function existed, then by the track I have selected in the arrange window. m/

Thanks for responding. Let me try and explain what I'm doing more clearly: I have my main screenset setup with a big arrange page with no mixer, inspector, media bar, or transport visible and I would like to be able to open the plugin on the selected arrange track without first opening either the mixer or the inspector. So I'm looking for a key command that is equivalent to double-clicking on the instrument slot of a software-instrument track in the inspector or mixer, i.e. to open the plugin window. I'm grateful to you for pointing me at the 'v' command though since toggling the plugin windows visible/hidden is damn useful. It just depends on them already having been opened. m/

I've posted about this on the Spectrasonics group but I figured it would be as well to ask here also. I'm using Stylus RMX 1.8.2d in Logic 9.0 and trying to automate the chaos designer on/off for a part. I enabled host automation and touch the chaos on/off button on an RMX part. This recorded automation data in my track but, rather than being called, for example, "Pt1ChaosEnabeld" it's just called "Level". On further investigation rather than being a binary value (like plugin enabled parameters) it is continuous from 0.0 to 1.0. Now values a little above 0.0 do turn the chaos designer on/off *light* on and off. But, in fact, they don't actually control the chaos designer itself. I noticed that, although the light comes on, no chaos effects take place. While cycling around I hit the on/off control manually and the light stayed on and chaos started. So it seems like it's automating *something* but not the part chaos controls. Has anyone else tried this in either Logic 8 or 9? Any help much appreciated. Regards, Matt

Hi. I've discovered the joy of working with a maximal arrange page (hidden transport, mixer, inspector, and media). But this gives me a problem when I want to work with an instrument or plugin in that I have to show the mixer or inspector to double click the slot to open it. I've browsed the key commands window looking for how I could, at least, trigger the instrument slot to open but not found anything. Is there a way? Bonus marks if there's a way to open the main instrument when you've got one of the auxilliaries of a multi-output instrument selected. Thanks in advance. Matt

A ha! Logic prevails. Thanks fader8. m/

Excellent point, you're right. Thanks. Matt

Hi. I'm automating the bypass on an effect plugin and I'm baffled by the "insert #1", ..., "insert #4" business. For example I have the following channel strip: http://emberapp.com/sandbags/images/logic-channel-strip-1/sizes/m.png In top-to-bottom order 'Replicant' is the 3rd insert. In insertion-into-the-channel-strip order, again, 'Replicant' is the 3rd insert. Yet when I automate "insert #3 bypass" it actually controls the 'Channel EQ' plugin. I cannot fathom the logic by which the ChanEQ is "insert #3". Can anyone else? I also don't understand why it can't say "Chan EQ bypass" or "Replicant bypass" since, presumably, the #1, #2, #3 even if they make sense at one point will make less sense if I, for example, made Replicant the first insert in the chain. Does this seem a bit daft to anyone else? Regards, Matt

Hi. I have an instance of Stylus RMX multi-out configured with two MIDI tracks going to outputs A & B. So in Logic I have 4 arrange tracks, 2 MIDI and 2 software instrument and in Stylus I have two parts. http://emberapp.com/sandbags/images/logic-pro/sizes/m.png All fine and dandy so far. Now I want to bounce them to audio which I believe should be possible with the new Logic 9 bounce-in-place feature. It certainly bounced a single software instrument track okay for me. If I select one of the MIDI regions in the "Bounce and Merge" menu "Bounce in Place" is grayed out and I am offered "Merge" and "Merge per track" I've no idea what either of those do and can't find any trace of them in the god-awful help. I tried both to no visible effect. So then I moved on to the tracks themselves. For both the MIDI and SI tracks I have an option, in the track menu, of "Bounce replace all tracks". For the SI tracks I, additionally, have "Bounce Track in Place" Again, using either of these options, from any of the tracks, has no visible effect. Certainly at no point is a new audio track created with any audio, from anywhere. It's most disheartening because I never understood why Logic 8 couldn't do this in the first place and now, even when I think I am supposed to be able to, I can't make 9 do it either. If anyone can help me understand how to make this work I'd be most grateful. Thanks, Matt [/img]