Tshh Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Anyone with a link for a vid or info on subject? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkleifeste Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 When you insert Kontakt on a Logic software instrument track. Select multi-out. Then in your mixer window you should see a little + sign at the bottom of the channel strip. click that a few times and have at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 When you insert Kontakt on a Logic software instrument track. Select multi-out. Then in your mixer window you should see a little + sign at the bottom of the channel strip. click that a few times and have at it! Yes I understand that part for say the ultra beat etc, but don't know how it applies to assigning independant channel strips to a bass drum and/or other drums to each have seperate strip controls effect etc in Kontakt. Is it multi timbral intrument i would create then something in the Kontakt interface? Maybe theres a logic vid somewhere i dunno. Once again it seems i want someone to do my homework for me, ehe. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzwah Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Have you thought of typing in Kontakt in Logic on the youtube site. I did and came up with your answer for you. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Have you thought of typing in Kontakt in Logic on the youtube site. I did and came up with your answer for you. Check it out. I hope its not the one where the kid says: 'I can't really explain it that well so i'm going to just go ahead and jump into it.' In Logic 9 Multiple Kontakt outputs...but if it is well, thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 In Logic, choose Track > New and make sure "Multi-timbral" is selected. Create as many software instrument tracks as you want for one instance of Kontakt. You'll be able to see the MIDI channel of each track in the track parameters in the Inspector. Each MIDI Channel is routed to one sound in Kontakt, where you assign it under the "MIDI Ch:" parameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 In Logic, choose Track > New and make sure "Multi-timbral" is selected. Create as many software instrument tracks as you want for one instance of Kontakt. You'll be able to see the MIDI channel of each track in the track parameters in the Inspector. Each MIDI Channel is routed to one sound in Kontakt, where you assign it under the "MIDI Ch:" parameter. Ok i see. This has been done and noted. Importing instrument patches to the Kontakt rack, this is where i am. I only seem to have kit presets that includes the whole kit. Where are the patches of intruments as groups such as Kicks/Snares etc. Don't tell me i have to create these patch groups!? I can't seem to locate individual instruments to drag into the rack i'm almost there...what information am i missing? Thanks to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzwah Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Depends which drums you are talking about. eg In Studio Drummer you can assign individual drums to separate outputs within the Kontakt mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Depends which drums you are talking about. eg In Studio Drummer you can assign individual drums to separate outputs within the Kontakt mixer. Its ARoads. First when David suggests multi timbral, lets say i create 4 tracks, then i place the instrument (kontakt) into the strips i/o, what do i choose, simply the stereo, so that i have 4 stereo tracks in one instance of Kontakt, or the multi out 16 stereo? The way it is now i have the 4 inst. channels and they're indicated in the inspector as midi channel 1 through 4 as David said, i chose the stereo option when inserting kontakt into the instrument i/o. In the mixer view on Kontakt i load the sparkle kit as an example, i see the kick in the mixer and the other drums and at the bottom there is no option for say midi out 1 through 4 anywhere, just options of -default, st.1, and none-. Thank God i only work part time. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 On the channel's I/O choose a multi-out 16 Stereo for Kontakt, not just stereo. You should then have the "+" on the strip to add aux channels, and you should see the routing options in Kontakt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janne Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Did you by any chance configured the outputs internally in Kontakt itself? Open the Kontakt plugin and click on the output tab at the top. There you can build your outputs (add channels) which will be assigned in host programs. By default only stere out is created. You can also the save your setup as the default for different instances(VST,AU,Standalone,...) After you've done this follow the directions you got from posts above.(multi out version of plugin,....) Regards J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 Did you by any chance configured the outputs internally in Kontakt itself? Open the Kontakt plugin and click on the output tab at the top. There you can build your outputs (add channels) which will be assigned in host programs. By default only stere out is created. You can also the save your setup as the default for different instances(VST,AU,Standalone,...) After you've done this follow the directions you got from posts above.(multi out version of plugin,....) Regards J I've managed to get drums assigned to the aux strip on the multi out, i have all Kontakts drums coming out of the main channel strip and bass and snare and hihat out of three aux from that strip. Why is it they're uneffected by Kontakts own instrument effects when the main mixer strip has them sounding with all of kontakts effects settings. I'd like them to sound as they are processed by kontakt then have it so i can add effects to that. Thanks, i'm making progress. i'm hoping for a simpler logic in the funtioning of software but as usual it seems to be a bit of a hike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyBee Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 ok - here's what i do. I have a default setup on Kontakt that has about 8 stereo outputs. In order to do this open up Kontakt and go to the outputs section. use add output and just use the default name - ie, st.1, st.2 etc. They should appear in the mixer section of abbey road drums. you may need to unload the instrument then reload it in order for the new outputs to be available inside the abbey road instrument. Then, in the mixer section you can choose where to route your kick sounds, snare sounds etc to. so, for example, go to the miser section of the abbey road drumkit, right click where it says 'default' underneath the funky old fader for the kick drum. a drop down menu will appear and you select st.1 - now do the same for all the others individual drums - i tend to do kick, snare, hi hats, toms and the the stereo overhead and stereo room mics each to their own output. then mute the mono OH and the mono room mic (as they're still routed to default they'll come out the st.1 channel and therefore be affected by any processing you apply to the kick drum on that channel strip). this is all assuming that you've already opened an instance of Kontakt with multiple outs (though you dont necessarily need multi timbral as you'll only be using one instrument per se (the drumkit) and routing it to multiple outs, as opposed to opening multiple instances of the drum kit in Kontakt and then addressing only one kit piece at a time on each drum kit). soooo, go to your mixer in logic and as others have said you'll see a wee + symbol at the bottom of the Kontakt channel strip. press this a few times to open up aux tracks for each output - the main channel will be st.1, aux 1 wil be st.2, etc. You should then be able to apply processing to each individual piece, automation to each etc etc. I think i havent explained it very well but it is a bit tricky to do. if you're still having trouble i'll try and do screen grabs for you when im on the mac (on laptop at mo, watching tv, surfing and eating supper - who says men cant multitask!!) Cheers DaveyBee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 ok - here's what i do. (snip lots of usefull stuff)Cheers DaveyBee Alright thanks DaveyBee i'm goin to run through your stuff in a short while, thanks for all the suggestions everyone. If i have anymore questions i know where to find you guys! Cheers from Manitoba! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyBee Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 right back at ya - from Belfast db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyBee Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 how did you get on? db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 how did you get on? db Sidetracked! Went and bought that RME Babyface on Friday and so i'm just trying to get organized and trying to get a better understanding of BF's Totalmix app...then i had to work last couple of days and so i'm not quite mentally as fresh as i'd like to be to absorb this stuff, but i'm off for a few after tomorrow and i'm going to run through your suggestions and get back to you. Tshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 how did you get on? db Ok i've run through your 'stuff' and what i'm getting is a signal for all drums still coming through Logics main Kontakt instrument strip in logics mixer. I've added the addition channels via the + symbol. Why aren't the individual drums routed and signalling in their own strips within Logic? There is signal indication for each individual drum within Kontakts mixer (where i created the additional channels and assigned drums) but why don't they route (signal) to the muti out strip within Kontakt's instrument strip within Logic. I'm missing something here -which isn't really suprising...ehe. Tshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkleifeste Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Click the button in Kontakt that says "Reset Outputs" in the Kontakt Mixer window. That worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshh Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Click the button in Kontakt that says "Reset Outputs" in the Kontakt Mixer window. That worked for me. There is no button in the Kontakt mixer that says 'reset outputs', that i can see, there is however a button in the outputs section that says 'preset/batch configuration' that has a drop down menu with one option as 'reset outputs section( to target defaults). This doesn't do it for me as it eliminates my added channels. Tshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkleifeste Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Click the button in Kontakt that says "Reset Outputs" in the Kontakt Mixer window. That worked for me. There is no button in the Kontakt mixer that says 'reset outputs', that i can see, there is however a button in the outputs section that says 'preset/batch configuration' that has a drop down menu with one option as 'reset outputs section( to target defaults). This doesn't do it for me as it eliminates my added channels. Tshh Hmmm maybe you have a different Kontakt than me. I don't have my laptop with me right now, or else I would take a screenshot to show you what mine looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkleifeste Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Wait! I found one online. It says "Reset Out Maps" see it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 I have similar questions,can someone answer this please? viewtopic.php?f=1&t=82696 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCcares Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Is it possible to email or post a template for kontakt player having seperate outs for each instrument in Eaither Abbey drums or Studio drummer? Would be great to have one emailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckycore Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I see this thread is over a month old, but I had read it for reference for my own struggles getting Studio Drummer to route properly to Logic channels. The issue from the lack of separation was indeed from the three mic channels being routed to the master channel (which is channel 1 by default, or in my named instance the kick channel). While the others suggest you mute those three mic channels, you want to keep them for that added ambience of realism...so what you need to do is create at least one more channel for those three and then route them to that specific channel, and click the little + to add one more track. I found that added EQ, and effects to that gave the drums way more depth, with out needing too much for the actual drum tracks them selves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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class="ipsType_normal ipsType_richText ipsPadding_bottom ipsContained" data-controller="core.front.core.lightboxedImages"> <p>Not the URL, just video ID string - like this: </p> <p> </p> <p></p> <pre class="ipsCode">[youtube]<div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="270" width="480" data-embed-src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/m_-e5mpt5ic[/youtube] Oh.. and.. 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Univac Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Not the URL, just video ID string - like this: [youtube] alt tag fail my bad My best friend graduated from IPR last year and bestowed me with that book as a gift tabbed out and all. it's like bad ass cliff notes for Logic 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Restore formatting Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply Share More sharing options... Followers 0 Go to topic listing
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