Patcherson Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Hi everyone, I just purchased an Arturia Keylab mkII, and I'm having trouble setting up Smart Control External Assignments. When I click Learn, I move a knob or fader on my controller. The knob or fader is recognized, but the selected parameter isn't moving with the knob on my controller. Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Does the target parameter being also properly assigned (in the Smart Control Inspector)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Does the target parameter being also properly assigned (in the Smart Control Inspector)? I'm trying to automate the resonance of an Alchemy patch, and that parameter is automatically populated in the smart control window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 I also tried using a different midi keyboard and it also didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 The knob or fader is recognized, but the selected parameter isn't moving with the knob on my controller. What do you mean exactly by recognized? What happens exactly? Do you see the MIDI data being populated in the External Assignent area of the Smart Control inspector? Or does it continue saying "No message received yet" like below? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 The knob or fader is recognized, but the selected parameter isn't moving with the knob on my controller. What do you mean exactly by recognized? What happens exactly? Do you see the MIDI data being populated in the External Assignent area of the Smart Control inspector? Or does it continue saying "No message received yet" like below? External Assignment.png Yes, I see the MIDI data being populated in the External Assignment area of the Smart Control inspector. That’s what I meant by “recognized.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 And yet that control knob (or slider) does not move the selected dial in the Smart Control pane? Just trying to make sure I'm understanding this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 And yet that control knob (or slider) does not move the selected dial in the Smart Control pane? Just trying to make sure I'm understanding this right. Yes exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 OK. Can you show a screenshot of the data that populates in the inspector pane? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 OK. Can you show a screenshot of the data that populates in the inspector pane? How to attach files to your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 OK so you have two different assignments on that Smart Control. Apparently the first one (Control Change) is one that you've learned while the other one (Mackie Control) is a control surface setup. Do you have any MIDI device connected other than the Arturia or is the Arturia set up as a Mackie Control (MCU protocol)? You can check that under Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup. I would suggest you choose one or the other (either setup a control surface protocol such as MCU, or manually learn the knobs you want), but not both at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 OK so you have two different assignments on that Smart Control. Apparently the first one (Control Change) is one that you've learned while the other one (Mackie Control) is a control surface setup. Do you have any MIDI device connected other than the Arturia or is the Arturia set up as a Mackie Control (MCU protocol)? You can check that under Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup. I would suggest you choose one or the other (either setup a control surface protocol such as MCU, or manually learn the knobs you want), but not both at the same time. I have the Arturia set up as MCU. If I can figure out how to use the mackie controls to control the parameter I would. Thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Or, do you know how to remove the mackie control in the external assignments window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Ok, so I figured out how to remove the mackie assignments but it's still not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Ok, so I figured out how to remove the mackie assignments but it's still not working. How did you remove the Mackie assignments? What does the Smart Control inspector now show? If all else fails and you don't mind returning to a blank slate, you could always trash your control surface preferences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Ok, so I figured out how to remove the mackie assignments but it's still not working. How did you remove the Mackie assignments? What does the Smart Control inspector now show? If all else fails and you don't mind returning to a blank slate, you could always trash your control surface preferences... I went into the controller assignments window, selected the lines that are related to both mackie control and smart controls, and pressed the delete key. Here's what it looks like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Click the pencil tool and in the next window, select the "Lo7", and press delete on your keyboard. Does it work now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Click the pencil tool and in the next window, select the "Lo7", and press delete on your keyboard. Does it work now? No it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Are you trying to use the Arturia both as a MCU and for manual assignment at the same time? If you're not then I would recommend your completely remove all MCU assignments: go to Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup and select the device there, and press delete on your keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Are you trying to use the Arturia both as a MCU and for manual assignment at the same time? If you're not then I would recommend your completely remove all MCU assignments: go to Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup and select the device there, and press delete on your keyboard. I deleted the Arturia MCU but the problem persists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 When you choose Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Controller Assignments, could you take a screenshot of that window and attach it here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 When you choose Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Controller Assignments, could you take a screenshot of that window and attach it here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 So you still have control surface assignments listed there. When you choose Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup, make sure there are no devices there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 So you still have control surface assignments listed there. When you choose Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Setup, make sure there are no devices there? I deleted all of the devices but it still isn't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Ok then try this: 1. Quit Logic. 2. In the Finder, hold down the option key while you click the "Go" menu at the top of your screen and choose Go > Library. 3. Inside the Library folder, open the Preferences folder. 4. Find and trash com.apple.logic.pro.cs 5. Restart your Mac. 6. Reopen Logic and check that Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Controller Assignments is completely empty. Now try to make your assignment again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Ok then try this: 1. Quit Logic. 2. In the Finder, hold down the option key while you click the "Go" menu at the top of your screen and choose Go > Library. 3. Inside the Library folder, open the Preferences folder. 4. Find and trash com.apple.logic.pro.cs 5. Restart your Mac. 6. Reopen Logic and check that Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Controller Assignments is completely empty. Now try to make your assignment again. Still doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Do you have something enabled in the Control Surfaces / MIDI Controllers prefs? If so try disabling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Still doesn't work. Is your controller assignments window empty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patcherson Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 Still doesn't work. Is your controller assignments window empty? Yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I would try to recreate the same issue in a new user account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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