tokolosh Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 i know its whatever one you feel like using sort of answer r but what would you say is the standard for pot production ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryla Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 ...the standard for pot production ? for pot production i generally prefer cannabis... Logic is -3db, ayt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBenz Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 for pot production i generally prefer cannabis... LOL! For comparison, Cubase 4 uses -3db as the default. I don't believe they offer a -3db compensated option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs4is Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 i actually prefer to put Sonalksis' FreeG on my output and use their -6 pan law. X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryla Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 dumb question maybe: what is a pan law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafel Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 Forgive this ham-handed explaination. Pan Law is the rule applied to the 'pan' on a channels attenuation of volume. To compensate for Unity (0) being reproduced perceptively louder then a pan left or right (-64 or +64). I think logic has a -3db pan law default - but this can be toggled. From Wikipedia (i checked as when i read my expaination I lost myself) So.... Pan Law is a recording and mixing principle that states if one has a stereo signal, then mixes it down to monophonic, any signal of equal amplitude in both channels will increase in level 3dB. Conversely, pan law applies to any monophonic signal that is not panned hard left (all the way to the left) or hard right (all the way to the right). This means that the specific level will change from 0dB to 3dB as the mono signal is panned from center to hard left or right. Pan Law can have drastic effects on stereo music heard on mono radio broadcasts or TV broadcasts. For example, if you have a stereo mix of a pop song, then sum the channels to mono, and the vocal is in the phantom center channel, the vocal will be 3dB louder than the backing vocals and instruments that were originally isolated in each stereo channel. Some mixing consoles have an electronic circuit that automatically compensates so that when a signal is panned to mono, it eliminates the 3dB rise. Pan Law functions can be different in different kinds of mixing consoles and other recording gear. For example, in Digidesign Pro Tools, the pan law is 2.5 dB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarekith Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 If you don't use the 3dB compensated, your meters in Logic will be off when things are panned dead center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titwillow Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 i switched to 3db compensated a few months ago and havn't looked back - it's made mixing easier for me for sure. also, the setting is song specific so changing the setting in one song won't change all like a preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryla Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 so where do you change it? can't find it in the manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titwillow Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 file>song settings>audio>panlaw 'andsome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I started a similar thread a while back where I explain pan laws (my second post in the thread): http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=6385 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 If you don't use the 3dB compensated, your meters in Logic will be off when things are panned dead center. The meters are never off, it's the signal itself which is attenuated when centered when using -3dB. The meters faithfully display that attenuation. No pan law is perfect, they are all compromises, you have to find the one that works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokolosh Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 cheers guys does pro tools works with non compensated -6db pan law ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonphoenix Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 As far as cross compatibility is concerned, use either none or -3dB. It is one notion that the reason why some people complain about certain audio engines not being good as an other is because when these individuals did experience another audio app and its performance, it's Pan Law was set differently. So, if I ever have to shift my project to another platform i just may have a better chance with mix compatibility issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespro123 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I tried the -3 pan law on some toms I was panning and it does sound more equal! Good tip. I had never done this before... Always more to learn in Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokolosh Posted June 16, 2007 Author Share Posted June 16, 2007 tnx guys you rock:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I think Pro Tools is -2.5dB compensated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryla Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 yes it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Thanks for confirming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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