Space Designer: Emulations via Convolution

[gsilbers]

I read a few thread about emulating gear using convolution.

 

can I load an IR of a NEVE pre and run a track through it and give me the neve sound? (of course not , but something close)

 

same deal with tape machines and distortions

[Colinc]

i dont see how convolution in the sense you are talking about would be possible with anything but a reverb or "space", as convolution is the mathematical process to model the reaction... i.e the impulse responses in the space designer are "tonal maps" of the rooms/envirornments, which for reverb is totally functional...

try these links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution_reverb

 

i dont think that "convolution" is really the word you are looking for... for pre amps and such would be more of engineering (or reverse engineering) a "knock off" (i.e. like what beringer does)... and you can find companies that make great knock offs, check PSP's knock off of the classic lexicon stuff.

 

http://www.pspaudioware.com/

[David Nahmani]

Actually convolution can emulate pretty much anything. A preamp, an EQ... but it will only sound like whatever the preamp or EQ was set to at the time you ran the impulse through it. So if you wanted to have the ability of adjusting the gain of your preamp in 10 increments, you'd need 10 different impulse responses.

 

For a parametric EQ.... huh... 10,000 impulse responses?

 

But I know some people are doing it.

[Rolo Tomasi]

For a parametric EQ.... huh... 10,000 impulse responses?

 

But I know some people are doing it.

 

For real David? That just kind of blows my mind that someone would feel as if they needed that many IR's to choose from. I mean if you can't get the sound on number 617...just seems a trife insane.

[David Nahmani]

Well I'm not saying people are doing the 10,000 IRs... that would be insane. But people are doing IRs of EQs or preamps, at various settings.

 

Here's a good collection of IRs, although pretty much all spaces or emulations of spaces: http://www.xs4all.nl/~fokkie/IR.htm

[Dante310]

well isn't that what focusrite does with the liquid mix and liquid channel? imo if you want convolution emulations of great eq's and stuff go for a liquid mix, they aren't too expensive and it would save you a ton of time.

[mattrixx]

well isn't that what focusrite does with the liquid mix and liquid channel? imo if you want convolution emulations of great eq's and stuff go for a liquid mix, they aren't too expensive and it would save you a ton of time.

 

Or go for Waves Q-Clone... It captures the gear you have along with a sh!t load of presetsof great gear.

I tried the demo about a year ago and have been waiting for the Logic equiv, since the Waves plug is fairly pricey.

[Jope]

Actually convolution can emulate pretty much anything. A preamp, an EQ...

 

...As long as the desired behaviour is linear. It cannot give you any non-linear distortion, which might be a vital element of an amplifier.

[gsilbers]

downloaded some neve IR from

 

http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=29

 

 

preety interesting. it gives me a warmer sound and u can mix it with the original if u use space designer.